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Those would be the guidelines that all translation contributors are expected to follow, which are given to all prospective translators. It sounds like Mozilla

by sitharus 11mo ago

Those would be the guidelines that all translation contributors are expected to follow, which are given to all prospective translators. It sounds like Mozilla just turned on the machine without consulting the human translators to see if the machine actually worked in a useful manner.

op00to 11mo ago
Specifically which guidelines? Not a URL. Not hand wavey “oh you know the guidelines”. A text list of the guidelines that are not followed.
- exe34 11mo ago
  It might be more helpful to point out which guidelines it did follow. Humans are expected to read and obey these things - so presumably whoever deployed them will be aware and can demonstrate that they were followed.
pseudalopex 11mo ago
> It sounds like Mozilla just turned on the machine without consulting the human translators to see if the machine actually worked in a useful manner. Yes. And someone should make a real apology. But learning what the machine did wrong is part of fixing a machine.
- sitharus 11mo ago
  Yes, that's why you engage with the people doing the work first and run it on a staging environment to see what would be overwritten. You test until it's working well enough to enhance the effort done by the translators.
  - pseudalopex 11mo ago
    And someone should make a real apology. Which I said.
  - danielscrubs 11mo ago
    Well, in this era Im not entirely sure the quality aspect is even considered. CEO wants AI? Then he will get it, so that the next earnings call can be bombastic! Saving zero dollars and making the product worse is not important, only that there doesn’t seem to be a browser monopoly is.
  - numpad0 11mo ago
    And the fact that they didn't strongly suggests that they knew.
- shaky-carrousel 11mo ago
  An apology? Mozilla is incapable of taking responsibility. What they will do is blaming someone else, probably the translators.
- littlestymaar 11mo ago
  What, you mean that US companies should ask their local branches before pushing changes in every countries? /s This happens all the time, in every US company I know. It's as if the Americans where entirely oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world exists.
- duped 11mo ago
  Not all machines deserve to exist

op00to 11mo ago

Specifically which guidelines? Not a URL. Not hand wavey “oh you know the guidelines”. A text list of the guidelines that are not followed.

exe34 11mo ago
It might be more helpful to point out which guidelines it did follow. Humans are expected to read and obey these things - so presumably whoever deployed them will be aware and can demonstrate that they were followed.

pseudalopex 11mo ago

> It sounds like Mozilla just turned on the machine without consulting the human translators to see if the machine actually worked in a useful manner. Yes. And someone should make a real apology. But learning what the machine did wrong is part of fixing a machine.

sitharus 11mo ago
Yes, that's why you engage with the people doing the work first and run it on a staging environment to see what would be overwritten. You test until it's working well enough to enhance the effort done by the translators.
- pseudalopex 11mo ago
  And someone should make a real apology. Which I said.
- danielscrubs 11mo ago
  Well, in this era Im not entirely sure the quality aspect is even considered. CEO wants AI? Then he will get it, so that the next earnings call can be bombastic! Saving zero dollars and making the product worse is not important, only that there doesn’t seem to be a browser monopoly is.
- numpad0 11mo ago
  And the fact that they didn't strongly suggests that they knew.
shaky-carrousel 11mo ago
An apology? Mozilla is incapable of taking responsibility. What they will do is blaming someone else, probably the translators.
littlestymaar 11mo ago
What, you mean that US companies should ask their local branches before pushing changes in every countries? /s This happens all the time, in every US company I know. It's as if the Americans where entirely oblivious to the fact that the rest of the world exists.
duped 11mo ago
Not all machines deserve to exist