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I know you think it's a joke, but look who is rising, Mamdani and Fuentes, outer bounds of the political possible just keep expanding. And they're just a gentle

I know you think it's a joke, but look who is rising, Mamdani and Fuentes, outer bounds of the political possible just keep expanding. And they're just a gentle preview of what is to come. Either way at the end you'll either end up with literal Nazis or literal Bolsheviks.

bigyabai 11mo ago
> but look who is rising, Mamdani and Fuentes 5 years ago: > but look who is rising, Kamela and Kirk 10 years ago: > but look who is rising, Clinton and Trump 25 years ago: > but look who is rising, Bush and Bernie You can make this argument for literally any point in American history. All you need is two household-name ideologues, it doesn't prove anything.
- moosedman 11mo ago
  It's quite then progression isn't it? But Fuentes can be described like this: "The Nazi in question here, podcaster Nick Fuentes, has described Adolf Hitler as “really fucking cool” and said “perfidious Jews” must “be given the death penalty” after “we take power.”" Just look at the Mamdani state run grocery stores and you'll see that in there own way, each of these are huge steps outside the mainstream.
  - bigyabai 11mo ago
    I'm familiar with them both. We can play the pull quotes game all week, it's fruitless. American politics have been like this for centuries and it's nothing new. What you are falling victim to is transgressive politics. Both sides have policy that chafes with you, and instead of admitting that you're being ragebaited, you're insisting that it's my fault for not recognizing it as some unforseen political maelstrom of racist communism. The big ugly thing you're pointing at is simply called politics.
    - moosedman 11mo ago
      You don't seem to be very clear on US politics if you think there is nothing extraordinary about their rise on the political stage, a rise driven in large part by desperation from Gen Z.
      - bdangubic 11mo ago
        there isn’t… you are probably young and think this is something extraordinary … us in 50’s - we’ve seen this shit before too many times :)
FrankWilhoit 11mo ago
The general process of devolution is independent of a topical phenomenon such as the AI bubble. It isn't even an instance of mass hysteria, but of hysteria among a very small and deliberately self-isolated elite

bigyabai 11mo ago

> but look who is rising, Mamdani and Fuentes 5 years ago: > but look who is rising, Kamela and Kirk 10 years ago: > but look who is rising, Clinton and Trump 25 years ago: > but look who is rising, Bush and Bernie You can make this argument for literally any point in American history. All you need is two household-name ideologues, it doesn't prove anything.

moosedman 11mo ago
It's quite then progression isn't it? But Fuentes can be described like this: "The Nazi in question here, podcaster Nick Fuentes, has described Adolf Hitler as “really fucking cool” and said “perfidious Jews” must “be given the death penalty” after “we take power.”" Just look at the Mamdani state run grocery stores and you'll see that in there own way, each of these are huge steps outside the mainstream.
- bigyabai 11mo ago
  I'm familiar with them both. We can play the pull quotes game all week, it's fruitless. American politics have been like this for centuries and it's nothing new. What you are falling victim to is transgressive politics. Both sides have policy that chafes with you, and instead of admitting that you're being ragebaited, you're insisting that it's my fault for not recognizing it as some unforseen political maelstrom of racist communism. The big ugly thing you're pointing at is simply called politics.
  - moosedman 11mo ago
    You don't seem to be very clear on US politics if you think there is nothing extraordinary about their rise on the political stage, a rise driven in large part by desperation from Gen Z.
    - bdangubic 11mo ago
      there isn’t… you are probably young and think this is something extraordinary … us in 50’s - we’ve seen this shit before too many times :)

FrankWilhoit 11mo ago

The general process of devolution is independent of a topical phenomenon such as the AI bubble. It isn't even an instance of mass hysteria, but of hysteria among a very small and deliberately self-isolated elite