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Wait until you read that the scientific evidence for flossing doesn't really confirm the promised benefits.

by richwater 1y ago

simonswords82 1y ago
Where? Source please?
muratsu 1y ago
Wait what? Please share
loosescrews 1y ago
Any chance you would be willing to summarize the research or provide information on some relevant studies? I've always been skeptical about flossing and would like to learn more.
- abdullahkhalids 1y ago
  The wikipedia article [1] suggests that there is no strong evidence for flossing being a good thing. However, that might just be because experts have not updated the article. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_floss#Efficacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_floss#Efficacy
- lakhim 1y ago
  enjoy https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD012018.pub2/full https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD...
- derbOac 1y ago
  Meta-analysis suggests flossing doesn't affect tooth decay. But it does seem to prevent gum disease.
Defletter 1y ago
tbf, it does require a technique otherwise you risk just pushing plaque underneath your gums
EvanAnderson 1y ago
Fortunately there doesn't seem to be any harm from flossing. At least from my anecdotal experience there are positive bad breath ramifications. (I've also been conditioned, by flossing regularly, to feel like my mouth is "cleaner" after flossing, to the point that it feels bad if I don't.)
- seinvak 1y ago
  Quite possible regular flossing causes microplastic contamination in the gums which quite readily then enters the bloodstream.
byearthithatius 1y ago
I hear so many counter-logical ideas proposed with "scientific evidence". Poorly designed studies and P-Hacking has ruined the publics trust in science. I highly doubt flossing is a net negative for almost anyone.
Alex3917 1y ago
This is the key issue. There is zero doubt whatsoever that flossing is essential, and the fact that the empirical evidence is equivocal shows the limitations of science to prove even the most obvious things.
- rpearl 1y ago
  I do floss, but I genuinely don't see that this is obvious. You can do a lot of damage with mechanical force, to both teeth and gums! Starting a flossing regimen after not having one tends to cause pain--isn't that a signal to stop? etc. Furthermore, correlation is not causation and it could well be the case that flossing is associated with better outcomes without causing it. For example, people who can afford to go to the dentist regularly are therefore regularly told to floss. People who care about dental health in general probably floss more, but also may be doing other things, consciously or unconsciously, to improve outcomes. Gut (and perhaps mouth) bacteria have behavioral effects; perhaps flossing is caused by having healthy mouth bacteria! (at least one study says mouthwash is better than floss. That seems obvious to me! liquids are smaller than floss.)
  - PlunderBunny 1y ago
    Do you have consistent gaps between all your teeth, and/or other conditions like strong enamel, or a good diet? If so, congratulations - flossing might not do much for you. But it's ridiculous to suggest that - if you don't floss and get food stuck between your teeth for days on end - that doesn't have a negative effect. Arguments about correlation/causation be damned. > Starting a flossing regimen after not having one tends to cause pain--isn't that a signal to stop? Moderate exercise after not exercising for a while causes pain - is that a signal to stop?
  - wjb3 1y ago
    Actually, recent research suggests daily mouthwash use, especially alcohol-based and antimicrobial formulas, carries underappreciated risks (e.g., Microbiome disruption kills beneficial oral bacteria that help regulate blood pressure while promoting harmful strains linked to gum disease and certain cancers [oral, esophageal, colorectal]; Long-term alcohol-based mouthwash use is associated a with 40-60% increased risk of oral/pharyngeal cancers, with risk scaling by frequency and duration; Chlorhexidine reduces nitrate-reducing bacteria, potentially raising blood pressure and increasing prediabetes/diabetes risk even in healthy users; Some formulas actually increase acidic bacteria that lower salivary pH, promoting tooth demineralization and staining). In other words, mouthwash offers short-term hygiene benefits but should probably not be used daily unless medically indicated. The oral microbiome matters more than we thought, and indiscriminately nuking it has downstream effects.
flossmaster 1y ago
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lr4444lr 1y ago
Many people are not honest about how much they floss, and those who do often don't floss correctly. We have a well understood mechanism for how tooth decay and gingivitis happen, and it's clear clinically that flossing can address these more effectively than brushing alone can. Furthermore, the subjective reduction in bad breath means harmful oral bacteria are reduced, which could have benefits beyond oral health.
preid24 1y ago
There was a period where my dentist would always ask do you floss in a check-up. They haven't asked for years at this point.

Wait until you read that the scientific evidence for flossing doesn't really confirm the promised benefits.

simonswords82 1y ago

Where? Source please?

muratsu 1y ago

Wait what? Please share

loosescrews 1y ago

Any chance you would be willing to summarize the research or provide information on some relevant studies? I've always been skeptical about flossing and would like to learn more.

abdullahkhalids 1y ago
The wikipedia article [1] suggests that there is no strong evidence for flossing being a good thing. However, that might just be because experts have not updated the article. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_floss#Efficacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_floss#Efficacy
lakhim 1y ago
enjoy https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD012018.pub2/full https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD...
derbOac 1y ago
Meta-analysis suggests flossing doesn't affect tooth decay. But it does seem to prevent gum disease.

Defletter 1y ago

tbf, it does require a technique otherwise you risk just pushing plaque underneath your gums

EvanAnderson 1y ago

Fortunately there doesn't seem to be any harm from flossing. At least from my anecdotal experience there are positive bad breath ramifications. (I've also been conditioned, by flossing regularly, to feel like my mouth is "cleaner" after flossing, to the point that it feels bad if I don't.)

seinvak 1y ago
Quite possible regular flossing causes microplastic contamination in the gums which quite readily then enters the bloodstream.

byearthithatius 1y ago

I hear so many counter-logical ideas proposed with "scientific evidence". Poorly designed studies and P-Hacking has ruined the publics trust in science. I highly doubt flossing is a net negative for almost anyone.

Alex3917 1y ago

This is the key issue. There is zero doubt whatsoever that flossing is essential, and the fact that the empirical evidence is equivocal shows the limitations of science to prove even the most obvious things.

rpearl 1y ago
I do floss, but I genuinely don't see that this is obvious. You can do a lot of damage with mechanical force, to both teeth and gums! Starting a flossing regimen after not having one tends to cause pain--isn't that a signal to stop? etc. Furthermore, correlation is not causation and it could well be the case that flossing is associated with better outcomes without causing it. For example, people who can afford to go to the dentist regularly are therefore regularly told to floss. People who care about dental health in general probably floss more, but also may be doing other things, consciously or unconsciously, to improve outcomes. Gut (and perhaps mouth) bacteria have behavioral effects; perhaps flossing is caused by having healthy mouth bacteria! (at least one study says mouthwash is better than floss. That seems obvious to me! liquids are smaller than floss.)
- PlunderBunny 1y ago
  Do you have consistent gaps between all your teeth, and/or other conditions like strong enamel, or a good diet? If so, congratulations - flossing might not do much for you. But it's ridiculous to suggest that - if you don't floss and get food stuck between your teeth for days on end - that doesn't have a negative effect. Arguments about correlation/causation be damned. > Starting a flossing regimen after not having one tends to cause pain--isn't that a signal to stop? Moderate exercise after not exercising for a while causes pain - is that a signal to stop?
- wjb3 1y ago
  Actually, recent research suggests daily mouthwash use, especially alcohol-based and antimicrobial formulas, carries underappreciated risks (e.g., Microbiome disruption kills beneficial oral bacteria that help regulate blood pressure while promoting harmful strains linked to gum disease and certain cancers [oral, esophageal, colorectal]; Long-term alcohol-based mouthwash use is associated a with 40-60% increased risk of oral/pharyngeal cancers, with risk scaling by frequency and duration; Chlorhexidine reduces nitrate-reducing bacteria, potentially raising blood pressure and increasing prediabetes/diabetes risk even in healthy users; Some formulas actually increase acidic bacteria that lower salivary pH, promoting tooth demineralization and staining). In other words, mouthwash offers short-term hygiene benefits but should probably not be used daily unless medically indicated. The oral microbiome matters more than we thought, and indiscriminately nuking it has downstream effects.

flossmaster 1y ago

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lr4444lr 1y ago

Many people are not honest about how much they floss, and those who do often don't floss correctly. We have a well understood mechanism for how tooth decay and gingivitis happen, and it's clear clinically that flossing can address these more effectively than brushing alone can. Furthermore, the subjective reduction in bad breath means harmful oral bacteria are reduced, which could have benefits beyond oral health.

preid24 1y ago

There was a period where my dentist would always ask do you floss in a check-up. They haven't asked for years at this point.