I think this conversation has become completely divorced from my original criticism of OP's comment, which is that we don't know what the pilots knew before V1,

I think this conversation has become completely divorced from my original criticism of OP's comment, which is that we don't know what the pilots knew before V1, at V1, after V1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45818462 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45818462