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This seems to be going for a somewhat similar goal to Mojo [0] - anyone here who used both and is willing to offer a comparison? [0] https://www.modular.com/mo

This seems to be going for a somewhat similar goal to Mojo [0] - anyone here who used both and is willing to offer a comparison? [0] https://www.modular.com/mojo https://www.modular.com/mojo

miohtama 1y ago
Based on my understanding, Mojo aims to make number crunch computation faster (GPU), while as SPy aims to make generic Python application logic faster. Very similar, but different sweet spots and use cases.
- ivell 1y ago
  While GPU is a focus of Mojo, it is also planned to make it a general system programming language similar to C++ and Rust.
- skavi 1y ago
  Your understanding of mojo is incomplete. Just visiting their website would have cleared that up.
  - falcor84 1y ago
    Taking that on a tangent, there's the seed of a very interesting sci-fi story in a world where visiting a website is sufficient to give people a complete understanding of something. EDIT: thinking about it some more, I would say that there isn't any real barrier with current technoly to having a relatively small on-device LLM downloading a LoRA file from an arbitrary site to get the AI equivalent of "I know Kung-Fu" - the real issue would be on the safety, security and trust aspects.
actionfromafar 1y ago
Time for me to remind everyone of the Shedskin Python compiler. https://shedskin.github.io/ https://shedskin.github.io/
emmelaich 1y ago
There are even older languages with similar goals. At least three are called viper and are older than 6 years. Two linked below and much older one with ocaml-ish features that I could not find a link for. https://github.com/pdarragh/Viper https://github.com/pdarragh/Viper https://github.com/appcypher/viper https://github.com/appcypher/viper
nylonstrung 1y ago
Mojo is such an interesting project but it's disappointing they pivoted so hard to focusing on GPU kernel programming and seemingly abandoned the objective of a general purpose python alternative

This seems to be going for a somewhat similar goal to Mojo [0] - anyone here who used both and is willing to offer a comparison? [0] https://www.modular.com/mojo https://www.modular.com/mojo

miohtama 1y ago

Based on my understanding, Mojo aims to make number crunch computation faster (GPU), while as SPy aims to make generic Python application logic faster. Very similar, but different sweet spots and use cases.

ivell 1y ago
While GPU is a focus of Mojo, it is also planned to make it a general system programming language similar to C++ and Rust.
skavi 1y ago
Your understanding of mojo is incomplete. Just visiting their website would have cleared that up.
- falcor84 1y ago
  Taking that on a tangent, there's the seed of a very interesting sci-fi story in a world where visiting a website is sufficient to give people a complete understanding of something. EDIT: thinking about it some more, I would say that there isn't any real barrier with current technoly to having a relatively small on-device LLM downloading a LoRA file from an arbitrary site to get the AI equivalent of "I know Kung-Fu" - the real issue would be on the safety, security and trust aspects.

actionfromafar 1y ago

Time for me to remind everyone of the Shedskin Python compiler. https://shedskin.github.io/ https://shedskin.github.io/

emmelaich 1y ago

There are even older languages with similar goals. At least three are called viper and are older than 6 years. Two linked below and much older one with ocaml-ish features that I could not find a link for. https://github.com/pdarragh/Viper https://github.com/pdarragh/Viper https://github.com/appcypher/viper https://github.com/appcypher/viper

nylonstrung 1y ago

Mojo is such an interesting project but it's disappointing they pivoted so hard to focusing on GPU kernel programming and seemingly abandoned the objective of a general purpose python alternative