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>fine A medium fries is over $4 before taxes… over $1 more expensive than the rest of the country.

by what 1y ago

toomuchtodo 1y ago
McDonald’s made $14 billion in profit last year. It’s not the labor driving the costs, it’s the profits. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44968997 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44968997 Same with Chipotle. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45762671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45762671 Who pays the profits? Like tariffs, the consumer. You pay for these billions in annual profits.
- underdeserver 1y ago
  McDonald's the corporation doesn't sell fries, they rent out real estate and franchise licenses. What you really need to look at is the cost of labor for a random McDonald's franchisee.
  - toomuchtodo 1y ago
    > While menu prices did increase, costs rose by an average of just 1.5% –equivalent to about 6 cents on a $4 hamburger, down from the 15-cent increase reported in the September study. Study: California's $20 fast-food minimum wage improves pay at small cost to consumers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43806608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43806608 - May 2025 https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2025/02/27/uc-berkeley-fast-food-worker-study-minimum-wage https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2025/02/27/uc-berk... https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/brief/effects-of-the-20-california-fast-food-minimum-wage/ https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/brief/effects-of-the-...
- kortilla 1y ago
  What was their revenue and what was profit as a percentage of that? If the profit percentage hasn’t increased, “record profits” is meaningless drivel that just means it kept up with inflation.
wk_end 1y ago
That's probably OK when the poorest workers are making the difference ten times over per hour.
kelnos 1y ago
I'm ok paying a little more for fries if it means the people making it and serving it to me are paid a living wage. Regardless, the fries cost what the local market can bear, not what they "want" to charge for them.
bradlys 1y ago
Have you seen how fries are made at McDonald’s? There’s nearly zero labor involved. It’s nearly automated. You’re paying that price cause that’s what the market will bear and McDonald’s needs to see profits go up.
almostgotcaught 1y ago
In-n-out fries are 2.45 (and a burger is 4$).
- bix6 1y ago
  Do you know why in n out is so cheap still? It seems like all the other fast food jumped up.
  - almostgotcaught 1y ago
    the answer is staring you in the face and you still can't see it. let me give you a hint: it's also the reason arizone ice tea is still $.99
debtta 1y ago
Why would you expect fries to cost the same in California as in much poorer states (most of them)?
surajrmal 1y ago
Prices are not related to costs. That's just a lie to folks use to justify price increase to the market. Prices never decline when costs do unless the consumer is wise enough to know like in the case for gasoline.

>fine A medium fries is over $4 before taxes… over $1 more expensive than the rest of the country.

by what 1y ago

>fine A medium fries is over $4 before taxes… over $1 more expensive than the rest of the country.

McDonald’s made $14 billion in profit last year. It’s not the labor driving the costs, it’s the profits. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44968997 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44968997 Same with Chipotle. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45762671 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45762671 Who pays the profits? Like tariffs, the consumer. You pay for these billions in annual profits.

underdeserver 1y ago
McDonald's the corporation doesn't sell fries, they rent out real estate and franchise licenses. What you really need to look at is the cost of labor for a random McDonald's franchisee.
- toomuchtodo 1y ago
  > While menu prices did increase, costs rose by an average of just 1.5% –equivalent to about 6 cents on a $4 hamburger, down from the 15-cent increase reported in the September study. Study: California's $20 fast-food minimum wage improves pay at small cost to consumers - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43806608 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43806608 - May 2025 https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2025/02/27/uc-berkeley-fast-food-worker-study-minimum-wage https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2025/02/27/uc-berk... https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/brief/effects-of-the-20-california-fast-food-minimum-wage/ https://irle.berkeley.edu/publications/brief/effects-of-the-...
kortilla 1y ago
What was their revenue and what was profit as a percentage of that? If the profit percentage hasn’t increased, “record profits” is meaningless drivel that just means it kept up with inflation.

wk_end 1y ago

That's probably OK when the poorest workers are making the difference ten times over per hour.

kelnos 1y ago

I'm ok paying a little more for fries if it means the people making it and serving it to me are paid a living wage. Regardless, the fries cost what the local market can bear, not what they "want" to charge for them.

bradlys 1y ago

Have you seen how fries are made at McDonald’s? There’s nearly zero labor involved. It’s nearly automated. You’re paying that price cause that’s what the market will bear and McDonald’s needs to see profits go up.

almostgotcaught 1y ago

In-n-out fries are 2.45 (and a burger is 4$).

bix6 1y ago
Do you know why in n out is so cheap still? It seems like all the other fast food jumped up.
- almostgotcaught 1y ago
  the answer is staring you in the face and you still can't see it. let me give you a hint: it's also the reason arizone ice tea is still $.99

debtta 1y ago

Why would you expect fries to cost the same in California as in much poorer states (most of them)?

surajrmal 1y ago

Prices are not related to costs. That's just a lie to folks use to justify price increase to the market. Prices never decline when costs do unless the consumer is wise enough to know like in the case for gasoline.