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I’m not a New Yorker or even an American, but it’s interesting just how much coverage this election has gotten in social media. I think most of his major polic

by WatchDog 11mo ago

I’m not a New Yorker or even an American, but it’s interesting just how much coverage this election has gotten in social media. I think most of his major policies are pretty bad, but I also think the reaction against him has been over the top. He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. A lot of people are rooting both for and against him, so it’s going to be interesting either way.

AnimalMuppet 11mo ago
> He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. Why? How much of NYC's budget comes from Albany? My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes.
- myroon5 11mo ago
  De jure, even NYC's existence itself is contingent on NYS' permission: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forrest_Dillon#Dillon's_Rule https://wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forrest_Dillon#Dillon's_Rule (de facto realpolitik-wise NYC will continue existing, but my point is to widen your Overton window to realize even NYC's own taxing authority is still under NYS' jurisdiction) --- Btw, federal and state funds were each ~1/6 of NYC's revenue in 2021: https://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/understandingthebudget.pdf https://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/understandingthebudget....
- hagbard_c 11mo ago
  > My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes. If those who claimed they would leave NYC for Florida (etc.) make good on their promises NYC will see a significant drop in tax revenues while the expenditures will skyrocket due to Mamdani's free-stuff policies. They can try to increase taxes which will lead to more net tax payers leaving the city. Of course it remains to be seen whether all those who said they would leave - up to a million people according to the legacy media - end up doing so but if this comes to pass those free buses might not end up happening after all. He'll probably blame it on the exodus and wash his hands clean off his campaign promises.
  - solid_fuel 11mo ago
    You think 1 million people will leave New York because of free buses and childcare? Am I reading that right?
    - hagbard_c 11mo ago
      Read and be enlightened: it is not me who thinks this but the legacy media: https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/one-million-new-yorkers-preparing-to-flee-nyc-as-polls-predict-zohran-mamdani-win/4030616/ https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/one-mill... https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/nearly-a-million-new-yorkers-ready-to-flee-nyc-if-mamdani-becomes-mayor-poll/ https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/nearly-a-million-new-y... https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/nearly-a-million-new-yorkers-say-they-will-leave-city-if-zohran-mamdani-wins/ar-AA1PN5QS https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/nearly-a-million-new-yo... That is why I said up to a million people according to the legacy media. I'm pretty sure a sizeable number of people will leave NYC due to the election results but I don't know how many.
  - ThrowMeAway1618 11mo ago
    Or Floridians will move to New York... A new Florida Atlantic University poll reveals that nearly half of Florida residents have considered moving due to rising costs of living, despite the state’s continued reputation as an affordable destination for many who live in northern areas of the U.S. The poll, conducted by FAU’s Business and Economic Polling Initiative, surveyed 1,000 Floridians and found growing economic frustration as property taxes, home insurance, and housing costs continue to climb. “Insurance. That’s the biggest one,” one resident said when asked about financial pressures. The findings come as a surprise to researchers, given Florida’s traditional appeal as an escape from high-cost northern states. Source: https://www.wflx.com/2025/11/04/florida-residents-weigh-leaving-state-over-rising-expenses-poll-says/ https://www.wflx.com/2025/11/04/florida-residents-weigh-leav...
aprilthird2021 11mo ago
> I think most of his major policies are pretty bad, but I also think the reaction against him has been over the top. Pretty similar. I'm not much of a socialist, but I'm shocked how extremely racist the opposition has been too. He cares. The opposition don't seem to care at all.

AnimalMuppet 11mo ago

> He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. Why? How much of NYC's budget comes from Albany? My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes.

myroon5 11mo ago
De jure, even NYC's existence itself is contingent on NYS' permission: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forrest_Dillon#Dillon's_Rule https://wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forrest_Dillon#Dillon's_Rule (de facto realpolitik-wise NYC will continue existing, but my point is to widen your Overton window to realize even NYC's own taxing authority is still under NYS' jurisdiction) --- Btw, federal and state funds were each ~1/6 of NYC's revenue in 2021: https://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/understandingthebudget.pdf https://www.ibo.nyc.ny.us/iboreports/understandingthebudget....
hagbard_c 11mo ago
> My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes. If those who claimed they would leave NYC for Florida (etc.) make good on their promises NYC will see a significant drop in tax revenues while the expenditures will skyrocket due to Mamdani's free-stuff policies. They can try to increase taxes which will lead to more net tax payers leaving the city. Of course it remains to be seen whether all those who said they would leave - up to a million people according to the legacy media - end up doing so but if this comes to pass those free buses might not end up happening after all. He'll probably blame it on the exodus and wash his hands clean off his campaign promises.
- solid_fuel 11mo ago
  You think 1 million people will leave New York because of free buses and childcare? Am I reading that right?
  - hagbard_c 11mo ago
    Read and be enlightened: it is not me who thinks this but the legacy media: https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/one-million-new-yorkers-preparing-to-flee-nyc-as-polls-predict-zohran-mamdani-win/4030616/ https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/us-news/one-mill... https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/nearly-a-million-new-yorkers-ready-to-flee-nyc-if-mamdani-becomes-mayor-poll/ https://nypost.com/2025/11/03/us-news/nearly-a-million-new-y... https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/nearly-a-million-new-yorkers-say-they-will-leave-city-if-zohran-mamdani-wins/ar-AA1PN5QS https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/nearly-a-million-new-yo... That is why I said up to a million people according to the legacy media. I'm pretty sure a sizeable number of people will leave NYC due to the election results but I don't know how many.
- ThrowMeAway1618 11mo ago
  Or Floridians will move to New York... A new Florida Atlantic University poll reveals that nearly half of Florida residents have considered moving due to rising costs of living, despite the state’s continued reputation as an affordable destination for many who live in northern areas of the U.S. The poll, conducted by FAU’s Business and Economic Polling Initiative, surveyed 1,000 Floridians and found growing economic frustration as property taxes, home insurance, and housing costs continue to climb. “Insurance. That’s the biggest one,” one resident said when asked about financial pressures. The findings come as a surprise to researchers, given Florida’s traditional appeal as an escape from high-cost northern states. Source: https://www.wflx.com/2025/11/04/florida-residents-weigh-leaving-state-over-rising-expenses-poll-says/ https://www.wflx.com/2025/11/04/florida-residents-weigh-leav...

aprilthird2021 11mo ago

> I think most of his major policies are pretty bad, but I also think the reaction against him has been over the top. Pretty similar. I'm not much of a socialist, but I'm shocked how extremely racist the opposition has been too. He cares. The opposition don't seem to care at all.