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Or any of these: - Vienna, Austria: About 60% of residents live in city-subsidized or cooperatively owned housing - Berlin, Germany: Rent control has been mix

Or any of these: - Vienna, Austria: About 60% of residents live in city-subsidized or cooperatively owned housing - Berlin, Germany: Rent control has been mixed, varies by neighborhood, but seen as working - Singapore: Not rent control in the classic sense, but government-built housing - Montreal, Canada: Rent control applies mainly to existing tenant Not all perfect. There are others. It can work.

tsvetkov 1y ago
Have you lived in one of those rent controlled “paradises”? In Europe, yes, there are sizeable populations living in subsidized housing, and often there are restrictions on rent increases, but new tenants pay way higher prices and have to compete for every available unit with dozens of other potential tenants. New tenants frantically overbidding each other, while old tenants pay pennies compared to today’s market prices, mmm, what a life. “it can work” in some way of course. People are surprisingly adaptable to living in semi-dysfunctional environments. But it reality the only thing that truly works is building a lot of housing.
- dmbche 1y ago
  Not something I've seen in montreal
- kelnos 1y ago
  > new tenants pay way higher prices and have to compete for every available unit with dozens of other potential tenants. Rent control isn't the cause of that, though, it's lack of housing supply to meet demand. If there was no rent control, competition would be just as fierce, and prices still high.
  - MrMember 1y ago
    They are not independent. Rent control discourages housing development.
jandrewrogers 1y ago
The housing situation in Vienna has benefited significantly from massive population decline. As much as the population has grown in recent years, it is only now approaching the population it had a century ago. Some genuinely lovely so-called “rust-belt” cities in the US have enjoyed a cheap housing renaissance on the back of historical population decline that is driving population increase now.

tsvetkov 1y ago

Have you lived in one of those rent controlled “paradises”? In Europe, yes, there are sizeable populations living in subsidized housing, and often there are restrictions on rent increases, but new tenants pay way higher prices and have to compete for every available unit with dozens of other potential tenants. New tenants frantically overbidding each other, while old tenants pay pennies compared to today’s market prices, mmm, what a life. “it can work” in some way of course. People are surprisingly adaptable to living in semi-dysfunctional environments. But it reality the only thing that truly works is building a lot of housing.

dmbche 1y ago
Not something I've seen in montreal
kelnos 1y ago
> new tenants pay way higher prices and have to compete for every available unit with dozens of other potential tenants. Rent control isn't the cause of that, though, it's lack of housing supply to meet demand. If there was no rent control, competition would be just as fierce, and prices still high.
- MrMember 1y ago
  They are not independent. Rent control discourages housing development.

jandrewrogers 1y ago

The housing situation in Vienna has benefited significantly from massive population decline. As much as the population has grown in recent years, it is only now approaching the population it had a century ago. Some genuinely lovely so-called “rust-belt” cities in the US have enjoyed a cheap housing renaissance on the back of historical population decline that is driving population increase now.