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The world is probably going to be split between EUV and non-EUV lithography for a long time. I'd like to see things like the Raspberry Pi stay on the older node
by phkahler 1y ago
The world is probably going to be split between EUV and non-EUV lithography for a long time. I'd like to see things like the Raspberry Pi stay on the older nodes and just wring out the performance. For reference the Zen1 CPUs were on 14/12nm from GF and I believe they are still faster than the pi, so there is room for improvement from them on old nodes.
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- wrigby 1y agoThat’s true, but Zen1 TDP is a lot higher than an RPi. Hitting that level of performance in a power and heat envelope that works for a Pi probably demands a smaller process node, unfortunately.
- wmf 1y agoI think it will split between TSMC (sold out forever) and Samsung/Intel (please please be our customer).
- Qem 1y ago> The world is probably going to be split between EUV and non-EUV lithography for a long time. How long before China develops indigenous EUV capability?
- phkahler 1y ago>> How long before China develops indigenous EUV capability? Oh, they absolutely will. I meant the tech world though, not the geopolitical one. Other node will also linger since there are cost differences, but EUV is going to remain a big cost step from 14/12.
- on_the_train 1y agoFun fact: only five high-NA EUV Machines have ever been delivered.