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This is great! I remember a turning point for me when I was feeling very low at the height of the War on Terror and jingoism appeared to have taken over the wor

This is great! I remember a turning point for me when I was feeling very low at the height of the War on Terror and jingoism appeared to have taken over the world. Just before the housing bubble popped and politics would swing the other way, but we didn't know that was going to happen yet. John Mayer was playing music at Macworld 2007 (wish I could find the video) and said "Steve Jobs and Apple Inc. just make life more fun. It's like the opposite of terrorism": https://www.cnet.com/culture/live-macworld-coverage/ https://www.cnet.com/culture/live-macworld-coverage/ I think of stuff like the Whole Earth Catalog as the opposite of neofeudalism and tech bro culture's revisionist history. It doesn't have to be this way. Wealth inequality isn't invincible, or even inevitable. Back to basics works. We can get our hacker culture back. We can restore the timeline that's been stolen from us, the one we were on in the 90s before financialization and ensh@ttification ruined all the fun.

silisili 11mo ago
Inspiring comment. I hope you're right, if nothing else for the next generation's sake. I'm a bit more pessimistic here. > We can restore the timeline that's been stolen from us, the one we were on in the 90s before financialization and ensh@ttification ruined all the fun. It'd have to be a cultural change. Consumers at large have decided with their wallet they'll buy products made anywhere, of any quality, with missing or abusive support, if it means they can save a dime. Or that they'll sign away every ounce of privacy if it's free. Until we fix that problem, fixing anything else is going to be hard. I like that younger generations care, or at least pretend to, about causes and sustainability. Not that that itself isn't being abused, but it's a glimmer of hope.
epolanski 11mo ago
Not sure why wealth inequality is mixed anywhere near the rest of the topics. I couldn't care less about it, if some people live to make money, let them, as long as they do it legally. On the other hand hacker culture is very lacking and the fact that we don't really own our devices is part of the issue.p
- rainingmonkey 11mo ago
  Inequality necessarily reduces living standards for those at the bottom of the heap. When the person at the top has more than they can spend on necessities and luxuries, they put their money to work. That means buying assets and driving up their prices. Some assets are fairly divorced from the "real" economy, but enough filter through to extract wealth from the masses who have to work for a living as eg. spiralling rents, inflated credentialism etc.
  - epolanski 11mo ago
    Regardless, what's the connection to hacker culture.
    - zackmorris 11mo ago
      This deserves an answer. Cash and assets are phantom wealth, the kind that celebrities lose after their first big break when they forget to pay their taxes and everything gets repossessed. Real wealth is majority shareholder control of the means of production. It's not so much that billionaires should be blamed for acquiring vast wealth, but that they are a symptom of a broken economic system. In that they use their wealth to lobby and capture the government so that they not only pay low or no taxes, they also get large government contracts and subsidies to multiply their wealth further. And they also own the mainstream media, so can use it to spread propaganda to convince people to vote against their own self-interest. So that deregulation, tax cuts and austerity appear to have equal footing with public investment, even though the former aren't supported by macroeconomic theory. Why does this matter? Because the premise of trickle-down economics is that investing money at the top causes ripple effects in the economy that eventually reach the bottom. Which sounds nice in theory, but in practice, the wealthy use financialization and tax shelters to vacuum up capital so that it grows only for them. In effect turning themselves into black holes where capital only flows one way (see Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty). Thus shattering any logical argument for trickle-down economics. The result being that there is plenty of money for private equity firms, real estate developers, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, big pharma, fossil fuel companies, proxy wars in Middle East and former USSR, you get the idea. Yet there appears to be no money for food stamps, public education, public healthcare, social security, Medicare and Medicaid, university research, government grants, and yes - grants and loans for small businesses like startups. Meaning that as the US government endlessly slashes funding for anything outside the status quo, the national debt only grows larger. Prices go up while wages stagnate. Paradoxes that apparently nobody can see, because they keep voting for the same people and parties. It's like Lucy pulling the football away just as Charlie Brown tries to kick it, but he never figures out that he's being fooled. When for a tiny fraction of the billions of dollars we spend on, say, election advertising, we could cure several diseases. We could have thousands, maybe millions, of $10,000 grants for startups working on disruptive technologies, the type of grants that Y Combinator used to give when it started. Instead we flush it all down the toilet year after year. So that hackers are forced to work in their parents' basements, on shoestring budgets, with skeleton crew teams, spending years of what little leisure time they have to build things that might have otherwise taken weeks. All so that billionaires and surveillance capitalism can keep vacuuming out our savings. The US GDP is $30 trillion, and there are about 150 million workers. That's $200,000 per year, per worker. Yet the median income is around $65,000 per year. Meaning that 2/3 of our productivity gets skimmed by the wealthy. Where does that other $135,000 per year go? It's not going to hacker culture, that's for sure. So we run in place as the world burns.

silisili 11mo ago

Inspiring comment. I hope you're right, if nothing else for the next generation's sake. I'm a bit more pessimistic here. > We can restore the timeline that's been stolen from us, the one we were on in the 90s before financialization and ensh@ttification ruined all the fun. It'd have to be a cultural change. Consumers at large have decided with their wallet they'll buy products made anywhere, of any quality, with missing or abusive support, if it means they can save a dime. Or that they'll sign away every ounce of privacy if it's free. Until we fix that problem, fixing anything else is going to be hard. I like that younger generations care, or at least pretend to, about causes and sustainability. Not that that itself isn't being abused, but it's a glimmer of hope.

epolanski 11mo ago

Not sure why wealth inequality is mixed anywhere near the rest of the topics. I couldn't care less about it, if some people live to make money, let them, as long as they do it legally. On the other hand hacker culture is very lacking and the fact that we don't really own our devices is part of the issue.p

rainingmonkey 11mo ago
Inequality necessarily reduces living standards for those at the bottom of the heap. When the person at the top has more than they can spend on necessities and luxuries, they put their money to work. That means buying assets and driving up their prices. Some assets are fairly divorced from the "real" economy, but enough filter through to extract wealth from the masses who have to work for a living as eg. spiralling rents, inflated credentialism etc.
- epolanski 11mo ago
  Regardless, what's the connection to hacker culture.
  - zackmorris 11mo ago
    This deserves an answer. Cash and assets are phantom wealth, the kind that celebrities lose after their first big break when they forget to pay their taxes and everything gets repossessed. Real wealth is majority shareholder control of the means of production. It's not so much that billionaires should be blamed for acquiring vast wealth, but that they are a symptom of a broken economic system. In that they use their wealth to lobby and capture the government so that they not only pay low or no taxes, they also get large government contracts and subsidies to multiply their wealth further. And they also own the mainstream media, so can use it to spread propaganda to convince people to vote against their own self-interest. So that deregulation, tax cuts and austerity appear to have equal footing with public investment, even though the former aren't supported by macroeconomic theory. Why does this matter? Because the premise of trickle-down economics is that investing money at the top causes ripple effects in the economy that eventually reach the bottom. Which sounds nice in theory, but in practice, the wealthy use financialization and tax shelters to vacuum up capital so that it grows only for them. In effect turning themselves into black holes where capital only flows one way (see Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty). Thus shattering any logical argument for trickle-down economics. The result being that there is plenty of money for private equity firms, real estate developers, the military industrial complex, the prison industrial complex, big pharma, fossil fuel companies, proxy wars in Middle East and former USSR, you get the idea. Yet there appears to be no money for food stamps, public education, public healthcare, social security, Medicare and Medicaid, university research, government grants, and yes - grants and loans for small businesses like startups. Meaning that as the US government endlessly slashes funding for anything outside the status quo, the national debt only grows larger. Prices go up while wages stagnate. Paradoxes that apparently nobody can see, because they keep voting for the same people and parties. It's like Lucy pulling the football away just as Charlie Brown tries to kick it, but he never figures out that he's being fooled. When for a tiny fraction of the billions of dollars we spend on, say, election advertising, we could cure several diseases. We could have thousands, maybe millions, of $10,000 grants for startups working on disruptive technologies, the type of grants that Y Combinator used to give when it started. Instead we flush it all down the toilet year after year. So that hackers are forced to work in their parents' basements, on shoestring budgets, with skeleton crew teams, spending years of what little leisure time they have to build things that might have otherwise taken weeks. All so that billionaires and surveillance capitalism can keep vacuuming out our savings. The US GDP is $30 trillion, and there are about 150 million workers. That's $200,000 per year, per worker. Yet the median income is around $65,000 per year. Meaning that 2/3 of our productivity gets skimmed by the wealthy. Where does that other $135,000 per year go? It's not going to hacker culture, that's for sure. So we run in place as the world burns.