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That's not necessarily AI. That could be as simple as a database lookup against flagged accounts or a simple heuristic score. We're over-AI-ing everything.

epolanski 1y ago
This reminds me how all of my friends in the last years have replaced special effects/CGI term in movies/ads/shows with AI. I'm always confused because they've seen special effects for decades, and now the very same explosions, filters, etc, cgi is suddenly AI.
philipwhiuk 1y ago
Or under AIing. It's automated. It's based on information. Why is it not intelligent. Why is it demonstrably less intelligent than an LLM which may make no attempt to retrieve information from other sources but merely has what it was created with.
t-writescode 1y ago
Wouldn’t a heuristic score be AI? It could very probably *not* be an LLM or Stable Diffusion or similar which has coopted the overall term “AI”; but that doesn’t make it not an expert system, or an SLM used for categorization, or even A* search, all of which fell under the umbrella of “AI” for a long time.
- echelon 1y ago
  A heuristic can be a single if statement. Heuristics are just rules of thumb without necessarily having a rigid law or clean classification. You can derive heuristics from mathematically modeling something or even applying machine learning, but they need not necessarily involve either set of techniques.
- danaris 1y ago
  I assure you, they still do. Artificial Intelligence is a thriving and active discipline of the Computer Science field. It includes things like A* search and expert systems even now, despite current popular parlance shoving LLMs into the spotlight as "AI" and implying that that's all the term means.
sidewndr46 1y ago
Having been told to implement this sort of thing at least once, it's not even heuristic. It was exactly things like "if firstName == 'Saddam' and lastName == 'Hussein' then lockAccount()". Keep in mind this was years after he was dead, for some reason the big list of prohibited persons the US circulates includes lots of dead people
- huflungdung 1y ago
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epolanski 1y ago

This reminds me how all of my friends in the last years have replaced special effects/CGI term in movies/ads/shows with AI. I'm always confused because they've seen special effects for decades, and now the very same explosions, filters, etc, cgi is suddenly AI.

philipwhiuk 1y ago

Or under AIing. It's automated. It's based on information. Why is it not intelligent. Why is it demonstrably less intelligent than an LLM which may make no attempt to retrieve information from other sources but merely has what it was created with.

t-writescode 1y ago

Wouldn’t a heuristic score be AI? It could very probably *not* be an LLM or Stable Diffusion or similar which has coopted the overall term “AI”; but that doesn’t make it not an expert system, or an SLM used for categorization, or even A* search, all of which fell under the umbrella of “AI” for a long time.

echelon 1y ago
A heuristic can be a single if statement. Heuristics are just rules of thumb without necessarily having a rigid law or clean classification. You can derive heuristics from mathematically modeling something or even applying machine learning, but they need not necessarily involve either set of techniques.
danaris 1y ago
I assure you, they still do. Artificial Intelligence is a thriving and active discipline of the Computer Science field. It includes things like A* search and expert systems even now, despite current popular parlance shoving LLMs into the spotlight as "AI" and implying that that's all the term means.

sidewndr46 1y ago

Having been told to implement this sort of thing at least once, it's not even heuristic. It was exactly things like "if firstName == 'Saddam' and lastName == 'Hussein' then lockAccount()". Keep in mind this was years after he was dead, for some reason the big list of prohibited persons the US circulates includes lots of dead people

huflungdung 1y ago
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