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> tried to frame. MIT really respects good hacks and good hackers. It was probably more effective than sending in some PDF of a paper.

AnotherGoodName 1y ago
>MIT really respects good hacks and good hackers. Oooof in light of Aaron Swartz. He plugged directly into a network switch that was in an unlocked and unlabelled room at MIT so he could download faster and faced "charges of breaking and entering with intent, grand larceny, and unauthorized access to a computer network". MIT really didn't lift a finger for this either. >Swartz's attorneys requested that all pretrial discovery documents be made public, a move which MIT opposed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
- jszymborski 1y ago
  Agreed, it's hard to see this as some sort of "hacker respect hacker" in light of MIT's other actions. It's very hard to extract Robert Tappan Morris from the context of his father being an extremely powerful man when trying to figure out how he managed to get away with what he did.
  - LukeShu 1y ago
    At the same time, it's easy to believe that MIT of 2013 is very different than MIT of 1988.
    - jszymborski 1y ago
      While that's entirely possible, MIT was established in 1861. I think the old boys club was established long before 1988.
      - pyuser583 1y ago
        I’m pretty sure MIT had a “state school” stigma until after WWII. Vandaveer Bush made sure they got lots of war research.
- jacquesm 1y ago
  They didn't lift a finger and spent a lot of effort on whitewashing their own behavior afterwards in the guise of an independent review.
rasz 1y ago
Its the other way around, they throw hackers under the bus. Aaron Swartz, Star Simpson arrested for stupid LED brooch, the list is quite long https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411868 MIT faulted over its support for students https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/14/mit/9VBBq9pBQ1z9rsR9o9e9sI/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/14/mit/9VBBq9pBQ1z... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411312

AnotherGoodName 1y ago

>MIT really respects good hacks and good hackers. Oooof in light of Aaron Swartz. He plugged directly into a network switch that was in an unlocked and unlabelled room at MIT so he could download faster and faced "charges of breaking and entering with intent, grand larceny, and unauthorized access to a computer network". MIT really didn't lift a finger for this either. >Swartz's attorneys requested that all pretrial discovery documents be made public, a move which MIT opposed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

jszymborski 1y ago
Agreed, it's hard to see this as some sort of "hacker respect hacker" in light of MIT's other actions. It's very hard to extract Robert Tappan Morris from the context of his father being an extremely powerful man when trying to figure out how he managed to get away with what he did.
- LukeShu 1y ago
  At the same time, it's easy to believe that MIT of 2013 is very different than MIT of 1988.
  - jszymborski 1y ago
    While that's entirely possible, MIT was established in 1861. I think the old boys club was established long before 1988.
    - pyuser583 1y ago
      I’m pretty sure MIT had a “state school” stigma until after WWII. Vandaveer Bush made sure they got lots of war research.
jacquesm 1y ago
They didn't lift a finger and spent a lot of effort on whitewashing their own behavior afterwards in the guise of an independent review.

rasz 1y ago

Its the other way around, they throw hackers under the bus. Aaron Swartz, Star Simpson arrested for stupid LED brooch, the list is quite long https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411868 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411868 MIT faulted over its support for students https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/14/mit/9VBBq9pBQ1z9rsR9o9e9sI/story.html https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/02/14/mit/9VBBq9pBQ1z... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411312 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7411312