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The IDF was formed from the merger of 3 terrorist organizations responsible for bombings and murders of Palestinian, British and even Jewish civilians. Not much
by _menelaus 11mo ago
The IDF was formed from the merger of 3 terrorist organizations responsible for bombings and murders of Palestinian, British and even Jewish civilians. Not much has changed.
- neoromantique 11mo ago[flagged]
- xyzal 11mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lehi_operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lehi_operations
- neoromantique 11mo agoThey were forced to disband, lay down their arms and merge into pre-existing IDF, specifically because the methods are not acceptable, some of them declined and had to be disbanded by force.
- _menelaus 11mo agoDid you know that Menachim Begin, the first prime minister of Israel, was the leader of Irgun? 'As head of the Irgun, he targeted the British in Palestine,[3] with a notable attack being the King David Hotel bombing. Later, the Irgun fought the Arabs during the 1947–48 civil war in Mandatory Palestine and, as its chief, Begin was described by the British government as the "leader of the notorious terrorist organisation".'
- neoromantique 11mo agoHe also later was a Nobel Peace Prize laureate. The targeting the British happened primarily during the holocaust when British were limiting Jewish migration (which has directly resulted in many many deaths). The history is complex and it is very easy to find reasons to dismiss people who lived through very difficult times and had to make very difficult choices.
- TheGuyWhoCodes 11mo agoThe first prime minister of Israel was David Ben-Gurion. Targeting the British during the Mandate was an act of anti-colonization, not unlike other factions that wanted independence from the British at that time, and the Irgun did warn the British before hand but they did not evacuate the hotel which was the central offices of the British Mandate and the Headquarters of the British Army
- _menelaus 11mo agoYeah good catch on the first Prime Minister bit. But let's hear you try to whitewash the Deir Yassin massacre. Irgun were wicked.
- TheGuyWhoCodes 11mo agoIrgun had nothing to do with Deir Yassin, it was the Etzel and Lehi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8bkqqvoGpc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8bkqqvoGpc
- richardfeynman 11mo agohaha I love this thread.
- negativelambda 11mo agoIrgun and Etzel are different names for the same organization. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun "Hannah Arendt and Albert Einstein, in a letter to The New York Times in 1948, compared Irgun and its successor Herut party to "Nazi and Fascist parties" and described it as a "terrorist, right wing, chauvinist organization" "
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- neoromantique 11mo agoThere is nothing to whitewash about wars and war crimes, they happen in every war, and are inexcusable in every war, no matter the side. For every war crime from Jewish side you can always point to a similar one from Arab side, this finger pointing is not useful for anything but spurring more hate and igniting the conflict over and over.