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His company Halliburton was the supplier for all the Gulf Wars and the Vietnam war. I suspect that they were not lobbying to end any of these wars and were pro

His company Halliburton was the supplier for all the Gulf Wars and the Vietnam war. I suspect that they were not lobbying to end any of these wars and were profiting greatly off of soldiers deaths. Theres a high level of dislike for him probably justly earned.

nine_zeros 1y ago
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gadders 1y ago
His daughter Liz is keeping the love for war going.
- fatbird 1y ago
  His daughter Liz left the MAGA Republican party long before it was obvious they'd return to power, and actively opposed them at great political cost. It's strange to watch someone you'd otherwise be against with every fibre of your being, do something principled you agree with.
  - gadders 1y ago
    ...to make sure the war money keeps flowing.
shortrounddev2 1y ago
Halliburton gave Cheney $34mil when he left the company to go be Vice President
- disqard 1y ago
  (from TFA) > Upon his re-entry into politics, Cheney received a $35 million retirement package from oil services firm Halliburton, which he had run from 1995 to 2000. Halliburton became a leading government contractor during the Iraq war.
ajross 1y ago
> Theres a high level of dislike for him probably justly earned. Pretty much. At the same time, he didn't blow it all up. Cheney sits in the same class as figures like Kissinger. You can view them as Machiavellian overlords doing terrible things in pursuit of their personal agendas, sure. But those agendas turn out... maybe not to be so terribly terrible in hindsight? I'm not saying the Iraq war wasn't a terrible mistake or that the end result of the fighting in Vietnam was worth the horrifying suffering of its people. But the post-war and post-cold-war USA hegemony was defined by a single nation with a strong executive able to wield these terrible powers to terrible effect, with really very little check on its external (or internal) actions. And, again, they didn't blow it all up. And I think that counts for something. Especially in the current climate where we're looking at a much less temperate regime actively trying to blow it all up. I guess I'm saying that I'd trust Cheney with the buttons and levers and know that my kids could fix what he broke. I'm not so confident now.
- hitarpetar 1y ago
  just so you know this means you are pro-Cheney. the untold human suffering caused by those wars was in service of the system you are glad he didn't "blow up"
  - ajross 1y ago
    If you must reduce the argument so far, then sure. Khan and Caesar brought peace to millions. Life is complicated. But some worlds are worse than others, and Dick Cheney's actions sit solidly in the middle of the pack. They're part of the universe of discourse and action that the rest of us can live with and recover from. Not all leaders fit that mold. "Just so you know", as it were.
    - hitarpetar 1y ago
      > Khan and Caesar brought peace to millions They make a desolation, and call it peace
      - 1y ago
derwiki 1y ago
War is a Racket - Smedley Butler

nine_zeros 1y ago

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gadders 1y ago

His daughter Liz is keeping the love for war going.

fatbird 1y ago
His daughter Liz left the MAGA Republican party long before it was obvious they'd return to power, and actively opposed them at great political cost. It's strange to watch someone you'd otherwise be against with every fibre of your being, do something principled you agree with.
- gadders 1y ago
  ...to make sure the war money keeps flowing.

shortrounddev2 1y ago

Halliburton gave Cheney $34mil when he left the company to go be Vice President

disqard 1y ago
(from TFA) > Upon his re-entry into politics, Cheney received a $35 million retirement package from oil services firm Halliburton, which he had run from 1995 to 2000. Halliburton became a leading government contractor during the Iraq war.

ajross 1y ago

> Theres a high level of dislike for him probably justly earned. Pretty much. At the same time, he didn't blow it all up. Cheney sits in the same class as figures like Kissinger. You can view them as Machiavellian overlords doing terrible things in pursuit of their personal agendas, sure. But those agendas turn out... maybe not to be so terribly terrible in hindsight? I'm not saying the Iraq war wasn't a terrible mistake or that the end result of the fighting in Vietnam was worth the horrifying suffering of its people. But the post-war and post-cold-war USA hegemony was defined by a single nation with a strong executive able to wield these terrible powers to terrible effect, with really very little check on its external (or internal) actions. And, again, they didn't blow it all up. And I think that counts for something. Especially in the current climate where we're looking at a much less temperate regime actively trying to blow it all up. I guess I'm saying that I'd trust Cheney with the buttons and levers and know that my kids could fix what he broke. I'm not so confident now.

hitarpetar 1y ago
just so you know this means you are pro-Cheney. the untold human suffering caused by those wars was in service of the system you are glad he didn't "blow up"
- ajross 1y ago
  If you must reduce the argument so far, then sure. Khan and Caesar brought peace to millions. Life is complicated. But some worlds are worse than others, and Dick Cheney's actions sit solidly in the middle of the pack. They're part of the universe of discourse and action that the rest of us can live with and recover from. Not all leaders fit that mold. "Just so you know", as it were.
  - hitarpetar 1y ago
    > Khan and Caesar brought peace to millions They make a desolation, and call it peace
    - 1y ago

derwiki 1y ago

War is a Racket - Smedley Butler