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We can be thankful he lived to see the Cheney family being evicted from the Republican party in humiliating style; in no small part because of how ruinous his p
by roenxi 1y ago
We can be thankful he lived to see the Cheney family being evicted from the Republican party in humiliating style; in no small part because of how ruinous his policies were for the right wing's strategic position. An unfortunate trend in history is a lot of these sort of people never have to confront how disastrous their legacy was. If there was an expectation that they have to see consequences of their failures in their own lifetime maybe that'd spur some standards that more ephemeral concepts of legacy do not.
- ngetchell 1y agoI don't think his legacy was the reason him or his daughter were kicked out of the Republican party. It was solely due to speaking out against Trump.
- ecshafer 1y agoA not insignificant reason for the rise of Trump were the forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which Cheney is directly responsible for.
- zitsarethecure 1y agoOdd that so few folks supposedly opposed to those wars appear to be speaking out against war with Venezuela.
- throw0101c 1y ago> Odd that so few folks supposedly opposed to those wars appear to be speaking out against war with Venezuela. We have always been at war with Eastasia.
- willvarfar 1y agoVenezuela and Nigeria have vast oil and rare earth deposits. Eh also Greenland. Hmm, there might be a pattern :)
- ecshafer 1y agoDo you actually not understand or is this a political quip? If you spend any time around normal Americans its really not surprising. Having thousands of soldiers stationed for a decade+ over seas in a war zone in a war of attrition with no real objective, is seen as very different than "bomb the commies bringing drugs into the country". US people are really anti war, very pro bombing communists, terrorists, and drug cartels. One puts American soldier's lives at risks, one doesn't. Go to your local working class dive bar and talk politics for an hour and it should clear up why this is a very popular move, but being in Afghanistan isn't.
- paulryanrogers 1y agoWar profiteering seems like a plank of the Republican party both pre-Trump and within the Trump era.
- dekken_ 1y agoYou're positive there are zero democrats with no financial stake in defense contractors? To me it seems an issue of individuals, rather than "parties".
- paulryanrogers 1y agoSomething being a party plank does not mean every member of other parties must oppose it. That said, there is one party that is consistently hawk-ish and boasts about war spending. And there is another party which most often campaigns on reducing war spending.
- dekken_ 1y agoRendering it somewhat redundant... Edit: this comment was made before the person I was responding to edited their post to include the second line.
- quitspamming 1y ago> That said, there is one party that is consistently hawk-ish and boasts about war spending. And there is another party which most often campaigns on reducing war spending. Maybe if you only look at the war on terror years, but look at WWI and WWII and most recently Ukraine. Both parties love Pentagon spending when it's _their_ war.
- watwut 1y agoDemocrats did not started nor caused war in Ukraine. They were not the ones invading or threatening to invade. There is in fact difference between helping a victim of invasion to self defend and being the attacker celebrating manly man invasions.
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- dyauspitr 1y agoIt feels like more of an honor to be kicked out of the current Republican Party, an honor Dick Cheney did not deserve.