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Because Datastar Pro isn't FOSS, and speaking from a purely probabilistic and historical standpoint, your odds of getting rugpulled (in some form or another) mi
by arcanemachiner 1y ago
Because Datastar Pro isn't FOSS, and speaking from a purely probabilistic and historical standpoint, your odds of getting rugpulled (in some form or another) might as well be 100%.
- nchmy 1y agoI can appreciate why people would have this perspective - I have been rugpulled a few times recently by thoroughly unscrupulous companies (Augment Code are trash humans). But Datastar is different. The project is literally owned by a 501c3 non-profit. The devs have dayjobs and donate their spare time to this. Funds are for going to conferences or hosting their own And 99% of the features/value that I mentioned is MIT licensed, and the "rugpulled" code is still available to easily port via the plugin API.
- epolanski 1y agoYou don't know that, even if they were your brothers sitting in the room with you right now you don't know if they are or not.
- nchmy 1y agoHow does this differ from any other open source project (most of which are not non-profits, and are utterly unsustainable)?
- hatefulheart 1y agoAs much as I like Delaney, the discord server and Datastar I find this question baffling. If the Postgres team released PGPro, swore it just contained anti patterns and you can just write the code yourself if you needed that feature, you’d roll your eyes, no? It’s about the fact they went there, not about the intentions.
- sudodevnull 1y agoYou are right! If this is enough to put you off the project then I hope you find one that aligns with your ideals.
- hatefulheart 1y agoHey Delaney! Thanks for you and your teams work. It doesn't put me off the project! I will happily pay for great software that enables me to make money just like I'd pay for good tools around the house (once I get started with D*). I was just pointing out that in my mind the criticism is totally fair game because many OSS do not do this, that is all. By the looks of it you agree. I think I want to just mention something here that is really important. The Datastar team have done more to push for performance, better UX and the ways of thinking around SPAs and MPAs than multi billion dollar companies have done in the last couple of years. Not forgetting HTMX, this cooperation has been incredibly fruitful and I am very excited about the future with you guys.
- sudodevnull 1y agoOh noes, we agree on stuff. I don't know what to do now... stare at feet.
- spc476 1y agoAnd OpenAI was a non-profit. "Was" being the operative word.
- nchmy 1y agoAh yes, one of the world's most valuable companies is totally a solid parallel for a few guys part-time making a simple, niche js framework whose pro license they discourage people from purchasing... Totally.
- andersmurphy 1y agoYeah HTMX should rebrand as DATASTAR LIBRE.
- reverius42 1y agoPresumably Datastar is a trademark that shouldn't be used that way? (Or does the owner of HTMX also own Datastar?)
- nchmy 1y agoI dont think they have a trademark. I also think they'd be completely in favour of HTMX rebranding to Datastar Libre.
- sudodevnull 1y agoAs the Datastar author, I'd approve this effort
- yawaramin 1y agoIt's a joke.