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Anyone who believes an algorithm could be conscious needs to take mushrooms.
by nprateem 1y ago
Anyone who believes an algorithm could be conscious needs to take mushrooms.
- visarga 1y agoConsider the river metaphor: water carves the banks, banks channel the water. At any moment water and banks have the same shape. Model/algorithm is the banks. Water could be the experiences. Maybe the algorithm does not have consciousness, but it is part of it. They co-create each other. They are part of a recursive loop which cannot be explained statically, or part by part in isolation.
- levitatorius 1y agoYes! If algorithm is conscious (without being alive) then the eaten magic mushroom is also very conscious, judged by it's effect on the subject.
- vidarh 1y agoUnless you can show me you can exceed the Turing computable, there is no reason to consider you any more than an algorithm.
- nprateem 1y agoTake a big enough dose and the mushrooms will show you that.
- vidarh 11mo agoUnless those mushrooms provides you with a repeatable, testable computation that you can repeat, they are not showing you anything of the sort.
- nprateem 11mo agoIf it wasn't repeatable people wouldn't frequently report experiences of oneness and similar spiritual experiences while tripping.