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I wonder how long until terminals support half of the XWindows protocol (as some weird combination of Markdown, HTML and escape codes, most probably). This is n

by Asooka 11mo ago

I wonder how long until terminals support half of the XWindows protocol (as some weird combination of Markdown, HTML and escape codes, most probably). This is not a diss, I would actually be pretty happy with a pared-down GUI protocol in the terminal with extensive Unicode support.

sph 11mo ago
2052: the whole of computing is VT100-compatible Javascript CLI applications running on a Javascript port of the Linux kernel, within a tab of Chromium. This is the actual end game of the worse is better philosophy.
- anthk 11mo ago
  It's 9front actually. VT100 it's killed except for legacy plaforms, it's seen like CP/M and Altair emulators where looked upon 1995-2000. 9front's libc with a minimal desktop based on a tweaked rio(1) and a taskbar plus a really simple file manager won. People god fed up of FX' and bells and whistles everywhere. A minimal RTF editor with simple options plus a simple spreadsheet with rc/awk support does things much faster. Oh, and, of course, you can damn bind/import devices (video cards, network cards, whole networks) from anywhere to anywhere with IPV6 and quantum networks. Old GNU/Linuxen, OpenBSD et all are just virtualized at crazy speeds under photonic CPU's. There's no SSH, just rcpu and quantum-secured factotum(1). Photonic GPU's and neural network devices just boot 9front themselves too, with zero delay. Forget VPN's, too. These are obsolete too.
  - sph 11mo ago
    Ha! Your vision is positive, and idealistic. (Plan 9 is never make a come back, sorry to say) My comment was sarcastic, and wishing that we at least tried to move away from UNIX, VT100 and mainframe-style computing; trying something new instead of continuously retreading old ground. Gary Bernhardt said it best: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...
temp0826 11mo ago
There is an in-terminal wayland compositor (or two?) out there, fwiw. Edit- one example https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything
dmd 11mo ago
well iTerm2 now has a #&*%( web browser built in...
- alwillis 11mo ago
  Yes! Hoping I can get Neomutt to render HTML email without resorting to launching a browser. Since URLs are clickable in iTerm, you have the option to view a webpage in the terminal.
  - quesera 11mo ago
    By "browser" here, you mean lynx or links or w3m etc, right? Assuming so, what would be the benefit of rendering within neomutt instead of lynx?
- AceJohnny2 11mo ago
  Does "calling a system provided-component" (WKWebView) count as "built-in"?
  - dmd 11mo ago
    Clicking a link to launch an external web browser: no Viewing a webview inside the app itself: yes

by Asooka 11mo ago

sph 11mo ago

2052: the whole of computing is VT100-compatible Javascript CLI applications running on a Javascript port of the Linux kernel, within a tab of Chromium. This is the actual end game of the worse is better philosophy.

anthk 11mo ago
It's 9front actually. VT100 it's killed except for legacy plaforms, it's seen like CP/M and Altair emulators where looked upon 1995-2000. 9front's libc with a minimal desktop based on a tweaked rio(1) and a taskbar plus a really simple file manager won. People god fed up of FX' and bells and whistles everywhere. A minimal RTF editor with simple options plus a simple spreadsheet with rc/awk support does things much faster. Oh, and, of course, you can damn bind/import devices (video cards, network cards, whole networks) from anywhere to anywhere with IPV6 and quantum networks. Old GNU/Linuxen, OpenBSD et all are just virtualized at crazy speeds under photonic CPU's. There's no SSH, just rcpu and quantum-secured factotum(1). Photonic GPU's and neural network devices just boot 9front themselves too, with zero delay. Forget VPN's, too. These are obsolete too.
- sph 11mo ago
  Ha! Your vision is positive, and idealistic. (Plan 9 is never make a come back, sorry to say) My comment was sarcastic, and wishing that we at least tried to move away from UNIX, VT100 and mainframe-style computing; trying something new instead of continuously retreading old ground. Gary Bernhardt said it best: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death...

temp0826 11mo ago

There is an in-terminal wayland compositor (or two?) out there, fwiw. Edit- one example https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything https://github.com/mmulet/term.everything

dmd 11mo ago

well iTerm2 now has a #&*%( web browser built in...

alwillis 11mo ago
Yes! Hoping I can get Neomutt to render HTML email without resorting to launching a browser. Since URLs are clickable in iTerm, you have the option to view a webpage in the terminal.
- quesera 11mo ago
  By "browser" here, you mean lynx or links or w3m etc, right? Assuming so, what would be the benefit of rendering within neomutt instead of lynx?
AceJohnny2 11mo ago
Does "calling a system provided-component" (WKWebView) count as "built-in"?
- dmd 11mo ago
  Clicking a link to launch an external web browser: no Viewing a webview inside the app itself: yes