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This kind of stuff makes me want to leave the industry:(

embedding-shape 11mo ago
Don't let it get to you, software is used for much more horrible stuff in the world (I'm glad you seem unaware of it so far if this is the worst you've come across) but that shouldn't let us impact the good stuff we build with it. Letting things like this get the best of your emotions just makes it harder for you to focus on healthy, happy and impactful projects, so please don't let it get to you.
- strangattractor 11mo ago
  I am aware of it. That is the problem. AI is going to grease the wheels of the horrible stuff of which you speak. Not only that it will concentrate important decisions in the hands of fewer people.
  - helicone 11mo ago
    Those people have families. You're being really insensitive to the Altman family right now. You should take a look in the mirror and realize that your violent words have consequences and can spread malinformation, distrust of authority, and a collapse of democratic norms. They succeeded in the free market and have the backing of your freely elected representatives, they deserve your respect and obedience.
  - embedding-shape 11mo ago
    > Not only that it will concentrate important decisions in the hands of fewer people. Technology doesn't do this, politics do. Make it illegal for billionaires to control the laws and politics in your country and make it illegal to become a millionaire while you're an elected official, and you'll prevent people from using technology to take control. Protest on the streets, organize general strikes, anything that makes your voice heard consistently, and do it soon because soon it'll be too late. Don't get stuck focusing in on individual efforts, because that's how they win. Focus on the root cause of the problems.
    - strangattractor 11mo ago
      I disagree. The problem is this person is not the only one - they are the only one saying out loud on HN. This view is not distant from the views of people like Altman, Musk, Andreessen, Zuck ... the list goes on. There have been and always will be "Entrepreneurs" that think like this. Prior to AI they had to convince large numbers of employees/people to buy into that type of thinking. This kept the proliferation of things like porn and gambling to lower levels because most people find them uninteresting career wise - especially technologist. As our tools improved - "Entrepreneurs" can do more with less people - the proliferation of socially questionable/beneficial activities has become cheaper. Hence the explosion of gambling and porn on the internet. Now image an AI world were people with this type of thinking can conjure up their dystopian ideas with out having to convince others that their ideas are worthy. They pay for tokens and make a product that is addictive to young men - something that would have previously take much more money and employees. We have already been experiencing this with social media. AI will amplify it. I am concerned about the benefit to detriment ration b/d. I have always been in the technology is making that number bigger camp. I am no longer so sure is all. Many CEO's are using their fiduciary responsibility to the company to justify this behavior. But CEOs are also Human beings. Human beings have a social responsibility to not harm other Human beings.
noir_lord 11mo ago
Almost everything involving "AI" as it has come to mean in 2025 does tbh. Yak farming never looked so good.
Herring 11mo ago
54% of American adults read at or below 6th grade levels. If the bot understands climate change, I can't see how dating it would be worse than dating most of my neighbors tbh ...

Don't let it get to you, software is used for much more horrible stuff in the world (I'm glad you seem unaware of it so far if this is the worst you've come across) but that shouldn't let us impact the good stuff we build with it. Letting things like this get the best of your emotions just makes it harder for you to focus on healthy, happy and impactful projects, so please don't let it get to you.

strangattractor 11mo ago
I am aware of it. That is the problem. AI is going to grease the wheels of the horrible stuff of which you speak. Not only that it will concentrate important decisions in the hands of fewer people.
- helicone 11mo ago
  Those people have families. You're being really insensitive to the Altman family right now. You should take a look in the mirror and realize that your violent words have consequences and can spread malinformation, distrust of authority, and a collapse of democratic norms. They succeeded in the free market and have the backing of your freely elected representatives, they deserve your respect and obedience.
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  > Not only that it will concentrate important decisions in the hands of fewer people. Technology doesn't do this, politics do. Make it illegal for billionaires to control the laws and politics in your country and make it illegal to become a millionaire while you're an elected official, and you'll prevent people from using technology to take control. Protest on the streets, organize general strikes, anything that makes your voice heard consistently, and do it soon because soon it'll be too late. Don't get stuck focusing in on individual efforts, because that's how they win. Focus on the root cause of the problems.
  - strangattractor 11mo ago
    I disagree. The problem is this person is not the only one - they are the only one saying out loud on HN. This view is not distant from the views of people like Altman, Musk, Andreessen, Zuck ... the list goes on. There have been and always will be "Entrepreneurs" that think like this. Prior to AI they had to convince large numbers of employees/people to buy into that type of thinking. This kept the proliferation of things like porn and gambling to lower levels because most people find them uninteresting career wise - especially technologist. As our tools improved - "Entrepreneurs" can do more with less people - the proliferation of socially questionable/beneficial activities has become cheaper. Hence the explosion of gambling and porn on the internet. Now image an AI world were people with this type of thinking can conjure up their dystopian ideas with out having to convince others that their ideas are worthy. They pay for tokens and make a product that is addictive to young men - something that would have previously take much more money and employees. We have already been experiencing this with social media. AI will amplify it. I am concerned about the benefit to detriment ration b/d. I have always been in the technology is making that number bigger camp. I am no longer so sure is all. Many CEO's are using their fiduciary responsibility to the company to justify this behavior. But CEOs are also Human beings. Human beings have a social responsibility to not harm other Human beings.

noir_lord 11mo ago

Almost everything involving "AI" as it has come to mean in 2025 does tbh. Yak farming never looked so good.

Herring 11mo ago

54% of American adults read at or below 6th grade levels. If the bot understands climate change, I can't see how dating it would be worse than dating most of my neighbors tbh ...