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The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people
by tayo42 1y ago
The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. I don't think that's fud
- jeffbee 1y agoI don't see how you can hold that this job market is "terrible" in a frame of reference of the last 50 years, unless you were born fully-grown in a vat exactly 4 years ago.
- tayo42 1y agoHave you looked for a software job in the last few years? It's worse then 10 years ago. Idk why everyone who comments on the job market only looks back to the covid year
- jeffbee 1y agoNo, and no individual person can rely on their personal experience to gauge the job market, including you. However if you wish to assert that it is currently more difficult to get a job as a software developer than it was in late 2015, aggregate data suggest this is false. Also, looking back a mere 10 years does not dispel the general impression that you lack context. If you look at employment in, for example, NAICS 518 "Computing infrastructure providers, data processing, web hosting, and related services" which is one of the larger BLS categories for our industry, the numbers are at all-time highs, having doubled since 2011. An example of a bad job market for software developers was 2001-2011, when this sector shrank by a third.
- tayo42 1y agoWhich numbers are at all time highs. Is that really representative of what people mean by tech? Or does that include companies that happen to make software?
- parineum 1y ago> the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. Hi is the need for employees related to profit?
- tayo42 1y agoThe decision to layoff has side effects beyond net income on a balance sheet.
- parineum 1y agoWhat's your point? If there's no work for 10k people to do, should companies just continue employing them to do... nothing?
- jeffbee 1y agoOne of SV's strengths is cutting your highly qualified and experienced staff loose to go do something else.
- parineum 1y agoIs there something the the SV charter that says companies operating there must do that? Nobody seems to want to answer the question so I assume nobody wants to confront that a company isn't the bad guy when it fires people it doesn't need. And, if it turns out it did need them, the company will suffer. Usually that doesn't happen though and so I tend to trust that these companies understand their business needs more than I do. It sucks when people lose their jobs but if there's no job at their company for them anymore, their employer isn't a charity. Just like if a company could no longer afford to pay they employees, the employees shouldn't hang around and work for nothing. You might as well be demonizing people who file for divorce for making their partner single.
- jeffbee 1y agoAgreed. I intended that last comment to reinforce your point.