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From her letter: > The consistent pattern of bias against conservative figures demonstrated by Google’s AI systems is even more alarming. Conservative leaders,
by MyOutfitIsVague 1y ago
From her letter:
> The consistent pattern of bias against conservative figures demonstrated by Google’s AI systems is even more alarming. Conservative leaders, candidates, and commentators are
disproportionately targeted by false or disparaging content.
That's a little rich given the current administration's relationship to the truth. The present power structure runs almost entirely on falsehoods and conspiracy theories.
- mikkupikku 1y agoIt might be rich, but is it false? Are Google models more likely to defame conservatives than not? I think plausiblibly they might, through no fault of Google, if only because scandals involving conservatives might be statistically more likely.
- th0ma5 1y agoA lot facts that people deem liberal or leftist or something are simply statistically consistent with the world literature as a whole and problematic for conservative ideals.
- criddell 1y agoBack in 2006 at the White House Correspondent's Dinner, Stephen Colbert said "reality has a well known liberal bias" which I thought was a pretty funny line. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_at_the_2006_White_House_Correspondents%27_Dinner https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_at_the_2006_Wh...
- huhkerrf 1y agoYeah, we're all aware. Midwits have been repeating it ever since.[0] 0: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22reality%20has%20a%20well%20known%20liberal%20bias%22&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
- th0ma5 1y agoI think about facets of this a lot. The conservative ideals of thinking only in zero-sum characterizations of political problems, that someone must go without in order for someone to gain, or that a conservative ideal is to be led by some authority both don't comport with how knowledge can also be gained in society through peer to peer relationships or the very idea that wealth can be created. That the world doesn't have to follow conservative ideals is how a statement like that becomes so funny since it is the current conspiratorial reflex of the right.
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- mikkupikku 1y agoA claim can be both statistically consistent with a given corpus and also simply wrong. Saying that Ted Cruz was caught giving blowjobs in an airport bathroom for instance. That headline wouldn't surprise anybody, but it's also wrong. I just made it up now.
- th0ma5 1y agoSo then is that leftist to point out the fact that it shouldn't be surprising or just an accurate description of party members as a whole?
- mikkupikku 1y ago> So then is that leftist to point out the fact that it shouldn't be surprising I don't think so, no. > just an accurate description of party members as a whole? It wouldn't be. While enough republicans have gotten caught being gay to remove the element of surprise and plausibly be the basis of LLM hallucinations, most of them haven't been, so such an LLM hallucination wouldn't actually be accurate, merely unsurprising.
- th0ma5 1y agoI don't think there's any mechanism inside of language models to accurately weigh this kind of nuance. I mean you would think that it would work like that but I don't see how it could or would in practice. The quantity of words and relationship to their description of reality is not something that can be directly calculated, let alone audited.
- petre 1y agoIf they train it on conservative media is going to defame everybody else just like MS' Tay chatbot.