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Please stop telling me to stop saying things that I did not say. The word "all" is not even in my comment.

by phito 11mo ago

cosmicgadget 11mo ago
"'Any' video of politicians being confronted" The only difference between this statement and "all politicians do this" is the politicians who are not confronted about bad behavior. It's a pretty big overlap and sufficient to assert you are coming across as normalizing this behavior.
- oskarkk 11mo ago
  "any video of politicians being confronted (...), they will almost always (...)" So not "all" who are confronted, but "almost" all. Not a very big difference, but that's still not "all".
  - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
    I didn't say "all".
    - oskarkk 11mo ago
      You said: > The only difference between this statement and "all politicians do this" is the politicians who are not confronted about bad behavior. That means that in your view, phito's comment was essentially saying that "all politicians do this" (your words), unless they're not confronted. My point was that it's incorrect, because of "they will almost always say" in phito's comment - so the correct reading of that comment would be that almost all politicians do this when confronted, not all.
      - phito 11mo ago
        That's indeed what I meant. English is not my native language so I probably could have worded that better.
      - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
        > "all politicians do this" (your words), unless they're not confronted. Right. I arrived at "not all" and you arrived at "not all" for different reasons. The combination of our assessments is correct. Both of us are incorrect if you decide that we have to show all our work, correct in that they draw the correct conclusion. This is HN-tier pedantry that is immaterial to the question of whether or not the above comment is normalizing something not normal.
- jasonm23 11mo ago
  Stop worrying about the use of words, none of this ridiculous exchange will change who does what.
  - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
    I wasn't the one worried about it.

Please stop telling me to stop saying things that I did not say. The word "all" is not even in my comment.

by phito 11mo ago

Please stop telling me to stop saying things that I did not say. The word "all" is not even in my comment.

"'Any' video of politicians being confronted" The only difference between this statement and "all politicians do this" is the politicians who are not confronted about bad behavior. It's a pretty big overlap and sufficient to assert you are coming across as normalizing this behavior.

oskarkk 11mo ago
"any video of politicians being confronted (...), they will almost always (...)" So not "all" who are confronted, but "almost" all. Not a very big difference, but that's still not "all".
- cosmicgadget 11mo ago
  I didn't say "all".
  - oskarkk 11mo ago
    You said: > The only difference between this statement and "all politicians do this" is the politicians who are not confronted about bad behavior. That means that in your view, phito's comment was essentially saying that "all politicians do this" (your words), unless they're not confronted. My point was that it's incorrect, because of "they will almost always say" in phito's comment - so the correct reading of that comment would be that almost all politicians do this when confronted, not all.
    - phito 11mo ago
      That's indeed what I meant. English is not my native language so I probably could have worded that better.
    - cosmicgadget 11mo ago
      > "all politicians do this" (your words), unless they're not confronted. Right. I arrived at "not all" and you arrived at "not all" for different reasons. The combination of our assessments is correct. Both of us are incorrect if you decide that we have to show all our work, correct in that they draw the correct conclusion. This is HN-tier pedantry that is immaterial to the question of whether or not the above comment is normalizing something not normal.
jasonm23 11mo ago
Stop worrying about the use of words, none of this ridiculous exchange will change who does what.
- cosmicgadget 11mo ago
  I wasn't the one worried about it.