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>> They compete in today's society against humans in creative fields. > No, they don't. To compete, they must be in the same market. Chimpanzees create works o

>> They compete in today's society against humans in creative fields. > No, they don't. To compete, they must be in the same market. Chimpanzees create works of fine art: http://images.google.com/images?q=chimpanzee+painting http://images.google.com/images?q=chimpanzee+painting They compete against human artists for prestige, and their works command sums of money. Chimpanzees perform in dramatic roles in movies: http://images.google.com/images?q=chimpanzee+movie http://images.google.com/images?q=chimpanzee+movie http://images.google.com/images?q=chimp+bj+bear http://images.google.com/images?q=chimp+bj+bear Chimpanzees provide spectacle entertainment for paying customers by living in zoos: http://images.google.com/images?q=chimps+zoo http://images.google.com/images?q=chimps+zoo Perhaps humans, someday, will be living in zoos, providing spectacle entertainment for paying customers (AI) who vastly outclass them in terms of intelligence and creativity. Perhaps these humans will occasionally be given a role in a movie, and perhaps their "fine art works" will be commoditized based on their novelty value.

jerf 18y ago
And there you go. You've exhausted the chimpanzee argument, and your third point is pathetic. Turtles do that too. Meanwhile, I can't hardly even begin to summarize the human contribution to the arts in the same number of words. You have anecdote-itis. You have no sense of scale. Your argument is so bad it's not even worth addressing any further. I hope for your own sake that you are trolling, because if this is what passes for a convincing argument in your world, you must make a lot of bad decisions.
- gravitycop 18y ago
  Turtles do that [provide spectacle entertainment for paying customers by living in zoos] too. Turtles are intelligent. Chimps are intelligent. Both compete against humans in the entertainment market. Both do not compete very well against humans. Chimps compete better than turtles. Entertainment competitiveness: turtles > chimps > humans Entertainment competitiveness beyond some point in the future: turtles > chimps > humans > AI

jerf 18y ago

And there you go. You've exhausted the chimpanzee argument, and your third point is pathetic. Turtles do that too. Meanwhile, I can't hardly even begin to summarize the human contribution to the arts in the same number of words. You have anecdote-itis. You have no sense of scale. Your argument is so bad it's not even worth addressing any further. I hope for your own sake that you are trolling, because if this is what passes for a convincing argument in your world, you must make a lot of bad decisions.

gravitycop 18y ago
Turtles do that [provide spectacle entertainment for paying customers by living in zoos] too. Turtles are intelligent. Chimps are intelligent. Both compete against humans in the entertainment market. Both do not compete very well against humans. Chimps compete better than turtles. Entertainment competitiveness: turtles > chimps > humans Entertainment competitiveness beyond some point in the future: turtles > chimps > humans > AI