I'm kinda fed up with the idea PHP = beginner's stuff don't touch it (as I am a PHP developper). True it is a very permissive language with a bunch of awkwardn

I'm kinda fed up with the idea PHP = beginner's stuff don't touch it (as I am a PHP developper). True it is a very permissive language with a bunch of awkwardnesses, but that's the main point of using it. Building something with a tiny LAMP stack is done in seconds, which can then be extended into something huge (think Facebook or Flickr). It's very extensible, you can add any stuff you like (frameworks, ...). Basically it's as if you start with a blank sheet of paper and decide where you want to go. I don't know many programming languages allowing this.