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I agree. He's always constantly testing limits, exploring gray areas, bending rules and "breaking" gentlemen's agreements. We should take this opportunity to

I agree. He's always constantly testing limits, exploring gray areas, bending rules and "breaking" gentlemen's agreements. We should take this opportunity to limit the rights of presidents. Apparently, the president can shut down half of the government departments via executive order. How? Because they were created by executive order. How can he just shut down the department of Education without congress? Because Carter created it by executive order without congress. A variety of presidents have had us invade foreign countries without Congress declaring war. Let's take this opportunity to tighten things up.

quickthrowman 1y ago
> How can he just shut down the department of Education without congress? Because Carter created it by executive order without congress. You are 100% incorrect. > The Department of Education Organization Act is a United States federal law enacted in 1979, which created the Department of Education. > In the Senate, 69 voted in favor and 22 voted against separating education from the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.[3] In the House of Representatives, 215 voted in favor and 201 voted against.[4] President Carter signed the bill on October 17, 1979.[1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_Organization_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_Organi...
dragonwriter 1y ago
> Apparently, the president can shut down half of the government departments via executive order. How? Because they were created by executive order. Please list the departments and cite the executive orders creating each, because I think you will find that this is far less than half (and, unless you are using a non-standard definition of what constitutes a department in the US federal government, that the proportion is actually 0%.) (A sibling commenter has demonstrated that the single example you provided is wrong, but its not just a poorly-chosen example.)

quickthrowman 1y ago

> How can he just shut down the department of Education without congress? Because Carter created it by executive order without congress. You are 100% incorrect. > The Department of Education Organization Act is a United States federal law enacted in 1979, which created the Department of Education. > In the Senate, 69 voted in favor and 22 voted against separating education from the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.[3] In the House of Representatives, 215 voted in favor and 201 voted against.[4] President Carter signed the bill on October 17, 1979.[1] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_Organization_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_Organi...

dragonwriter 1y ago

> Apparently, the president can shut down half of the government departments via executive order. How? Because they were created by executive order. Please list the departments and cite the executive orders creating each, because I think you will find that this is far less than half (and, unless you are using a non-standard definition of what constitutes a department in the US federal government, that the proportion is actually 0%.) (A sibling commenter has demonstrated that the single example you provided is wrong, but its not just a poorly-chosen example.)