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They also have their own “Gruyère” - different from the Swiss one and with holes - in France: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruy%C3%A8re_fran%C3%A7ais https://

by kgwgk 1y ago

They also have their own “Gruyère” - different from the Swiss one and with holes - in France: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruy%C3%A8re_fran%C3%A7ais https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruy%C3%A8re_fran%C3%A7ais They also have a cheese similar to the Gruyère from Switzerland, but with a different name (the Gruyère part dropped from the name over time): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comt%C3%A9_(fromage) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comt%C3%A9_(fromage)

rkomorn 1y ago
I'm French and it apparently took more than four decades for me to TIL that we have our own Gruyère. I always assumed we were just calling Emmental the wrong thing. Then again most of what we call Gruyère is a somewhat industrialized store-bought thing that arguably tastes like neither Emmental not Gruyère (but at least it has holes, I guess). And to boot, I'm pretty sure we call "Gruyère" some of the products that are labeled as Emmental anyway. In retrospect, it makes sense we'd have our "own" given how finicky we are with names (of things we produce). Edit: turns out we've also bastardized Emmental anyway.
HelloNurse 1y ago
There's also a tight branding and trademark component. I remember a major ad campaign when proper imported "Emmental" was rebranded as "Emmentaler" because the former name was becoming generic, and a related ad campaign about positioning and promoting Emmentaler as one of several kinds of "Swiss Cheese" along with Gruyere, Sbrinz and maybe a fourth one I don't recollect.
- kgwgk 1y ago
  > proper imported "Emmental" was rebranded as "Emmentaler" It’s also called Emmentaler (from Emmental) in Switzerland. https://www.emmentaler.ch/en/our-history https://www.emmentaler.ch/en/our-history
  - HelloNurse 1y ago
    "Emmental", also misspelled "Emmenthal", remains the common name in Italy, non to mention the name of various imitations.

by kgwgk 1y ago

rkomorn 1y ago

I'm French and it apparently took more than four decades for me to TIL that we have our own Gruyère. I always assumed we were just calling Emmental the wrong thing. Then again most of what we call Gruyère is a somewhat industrialized store-bought thing that arguably tastes like neither Emmental not Gruyère (but at least it has holes, I guess). And to boot, I'm pretty sure we call "Gruyère" some of the products that are labeled as Emmental anyway. In retrospect, it makes sense we'd have our "own" given how finicky we are with names (of things we produce). Edit: turns out we've also bastardized Emmental anyway.

HelloNurse 1y ago

There's also a tight branding and trademark component. I remember a major ad campaign when proper imported "Emmental" was rebranded as "Emmentaler" because the former name was becoming generic, and a related ad campaign about positioning and promoting Emmentaler as one of several kinds of "Swiss Cheese" along with Gruyere, Sbrinz and maybe a fourth one I don't recollect.

kgwgk 1y ago
> proper imported "Emmental" was rebranded as "Emmentaler" It’s also called Emmentaler (from Emmental) in Switzerland. https://www.emmentaler.ch/en/our-history https://www.emmentaler.ch/en/our-history
- HelloNurse 1y ago
  "Emmental", also misspelled "Emmenthal", remains the common name in Italy, non to mention the name of various imitations.