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I doubt he's letting LLM creep in to his decision-making in 2025, aside from fun side projects (vibes). We don't ever come across Karpathy going to an LLM or ex
by code51 11mo ago
I doubt he's letting LLM creep in to his decision-making in 2025, aside from fun side projects (vibes). We don't ever come across Karpathy going to an LLM or expressing that an LLM helped in any of his Youtube videos about building LLMs.
He's just test driving LLMs, nothing more.
Nobody's asking this core question in podcasts. "How much and how exactly are you using LLMs in your daily flow?"
I'm guessing it's like actors not wanting to watch their own movies.
- danielbln 11mo agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45788753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45788753
- mquander 11mo agoKarpathy talking for 2 hours about how he uses LLMs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWvNQjAaOHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWvNQjAaOHw
- code51 11mo agoVibing, not firing at his ML problems. He's doing a capability check in this video (for the general audience, which is good of course), not attacking a hard problem in ML domain. Despite this tweet: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1964020416139448359 https://x.com/karpathy/status/1964020416139448359 , I've never seen him citing an LLM helped him out in ML work.
- soulofmischief 11mo agoYou're free to believe whatever fantasy you wish, but as someone who frequently consults an LLM alongside other resources when thinking about complex and abstract problems, there is no way in hell that Karpathy intentionally limits his options by excluding LLMs when seeking knowledge or understanding. If he did not believe in the capability of these models, he would be doing something else with his time.
- strogonoff 11mo agoOne can believe in the capability of a technology but on principle refuse to use implementations of it built on ethically flawed approaches (e.g., violating GPL licensing laws and/or copyright, thus harming open source ecosystem).
- soulofmischief 11mo agoWhat you see as copyright violation, I see as liberation. I have open models running locally on my machine that would have felled kingdoms in the past.
- strogonoff 11mo agoI personally see no issue with training and running open local models by individuals. When corporations run scrapers and expropriate IP at an industrial scale, then charge for using them, it is different.
- soulofmischief 11mo agoWhat about Meta and the commercially licensed family of Llama open-weight models?
- strogonoff 11mo agoI have not researched closely enough but I think it falls under what corporations do. They are commercially licensed, you cannot use them freely, and crucially they were trained using data scraped at an industrial scale, contributing to degradation of the Web for humans.
- soulofmischief 11mo agoSince Llama 2, the models have been commercially licensed under an acceptable use policy. So you're able to use them commercially as you see fir, but you can't use them freely in the most absolute sense, but then again this is a thread about restricting the freedoms of organizations in the name of a 25-year-old law that has been a disgrace from the start. > contributing to degradation of the Web for humans I'll be the first to say that Meta did this with Facebook and Instagram, along with other companies such as Reddit. However, we don't yet know what the web is going to look like post-AI, and it's silly to blame any one company for what clearly is an inevitable evolution in technology. The post-AI web was always coming, what's important is how we plan to steward these technologies.
- confirmmesenpai 11mo ago> Continuing the journey of optimal LLM-assisted coding experience. In particular, I find that instead of narrowing in on a perfect one thing my usage is increasingly diversifying https://x.com/karpathy/status/1959703967694545296 https://x.com/karpathy/status/1959703967694545296