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Ada can't bootstrap? Ironic...

• lrvick 11mo ago
  Yes, and that is a serious security problem because the only way to get trusted PCR values for TPM2 gated secure boot and full disk decryption applications, is with open source full source bootstrapped firmware. Coreboot is the only option, but it has a hard requirement on Ada because that is what they wrote their intel graphics stack in. It is a real mess.
  • utopiah 11mo ago
    Interesting, any link I could read to understand a bit more the situation?
    • lrvick 11mo ago
      Here is some background on the Haskell situation: https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/802-More_thoughts_on_a_bootstrappable_GHC https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/802-More_thoughts_on_a_... Ada has had even less progress and I am not aware of any writeups. TL;DR: Ada and Haskell need to have compilers implemented a language that has a full source bootstrap path such as C, Go, or Rust that implement just enough features to compile the official compilers.
      • elbear 11mo ago
        Just curious, are C, Go and Rust and the only viabile languages for an implementation?
• leoh 11mo ago
  Sounds like an opportunity to rebuild an ADA interpreter
  • lrvick 11mo ago
    Yes. Many efforts have started and fizzled out over the years before completion. If you know anyone that takes this on and succeeds I have a 2k cash bounty for them, and we can likely find others.