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I got that suggestion recently talking to a colleague from a prestigious university. Her suggestion was simple: Kick out all non-ivy league and most internatio

I got that suggestion recently talking to a colleague from a prestigious university. Her suggestion was simple: Kick out all non-ivy league and most international researchers. Then you have a working reputation system. Make of that what you will ...

eesmith 11mo ago
Ahh, your colleague wants a higher concentration of "that comet might be an interstellar spacecraft" articles.
- uniqueuid 11mo ago
  If your goal is exclusively reducing strain of overloaded editors, then that's just a side effect that you might tolerate :)
internetguy 11mo ago
all non-ivy league researchers? that seems a little harsh IMO. i've read some amazing papers from T50 or even some T100 universities.
Ekaros 11mo ago
Maybe there should be some type of strike rules. Say 3 bad articles from any institution and they get 10 year ban. Whatever their prestige or monetary value is. You let people under your name to release bad articles you are out for a while. Treat everyone equally. After 10 years of only quality you get chance to get back. Before that though luck.
- uniqueuid 11mo ago
  I'm not sure everyone got my hint that the proposal is obviously very bad, (1) because ivy league also produces a lot of work that's not so great (i.e. wrong (looking at you, Ariely) or un-ambitious) and (2) because from time to time, some really important work comes out of surprising places. I don't think we have a good verdict on the Orthega hypothesis yet, but I'm not a professional meta scientist. That said, your proposal seems like a really good idea, I like it! Except I'd apply it to individuals and/or labs.
fn-mote 11mo ago
Keep in mind the fabulous mathematical research of people like Perelman [1], and one might even count Grothendieck [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman [2] https://www.ams.org/notices/200808/tx080800930p.pdf https://www.ams.org/notices/200808/tx080800930p.pdf

eesmith 11mo ago

Ahh, your colleague wants a higher concentration of "that comet might be an interstellar spacecraft" articles.

uniqueuid 11mo ago
If your goal is exclusively reducing strain of overloaded editors, then that's just a side effect that you might tolerate :)

internetguy 11mo ago

all non-ivy league researchers? that seems a little harsh IMO. i've read some amazing papers from T50 or even some T100 universities.

Ekaros 11mo ago

Maybe there should be some type of strike rules. Say 3 bad articles from any institution and they get 10 year ban. Whatever their prestige or monetary value is. You let people under your name to release bad articles you are out for a while. Treat everyone equally. After 10 years of only quality you get chance to get back. Before that though luck.

uniqueuid 11mo ago
I'm not sure everyone got my hint that the proposal is obviously very bad, (1) because ivy league also produces a lot of work that's not so great (i.e. wrong (looking at you, Ariely) or un-ambitious) and (2) because from time to time, some really important work comes out of surprising places. I don't think we have a good verdict on the Orthega hypothesis yet, but I'm not a professional meta scientist. That said, your proposal seems like a really good idea, I like it! Except I'd apply it to individuals and/or labs.

fn-mote 11mo ago

Keep in mind the fabulous mathematical research of people like Perelman [1], and one might even count Grothendieck [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman [2] https://www.ams.org/notices/200808/tx080800930p.pdf https://www.ams.org/notices/200808/tx080800930p.pdf