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Could you give more specific reasons?

by aurintex 11mo ago

HardwareLust 11mo ago
Because I don't want my life to be training data for some stupid LLM so that you can try to become to the next tech oligarch.
- aurintex 11mo ago
  Would it make a difference if the data were only stored locally on your device?
  - HardwareLust 11mo ago
    It might, depending on how you intend to anonymize the data, and whether you intend to market that data to other companies.
    - aurintex 11mo ago
      The core idea is that the AI runs locally on the device, and all data is stored on the device. Therefore, no data will be shared or sold to other companies. Regarding anonymization --> do you mean, what if I pointed the camera at someone else? That would be filtered out.
      - diamond559 11mo ago
        Oh, so you'll peep on everything we do, but don't worry, only you and your team will be able to be the voyeurs. lol, lmao even. Do you ppl even hear yourselves talk?
      - Forgeties79 11mo ago
        >what if I pointed the camera at someone else? That would be filtered out I'm no expert at this but that sounds a lot harder to implement than you're implying, especially if it's all locally stored and not checked over by a 3rd party. What's to stop me from just doing it anyway?
        aurintex 11mo ago
        That’s why the plan is to invert the usual logic: instead of capturing everything and trying to filter later, the system would reject everything by default and only respond to what the user explicitly enables --> similar to how wake word detection works. I’ve also thought a lot about trust. Would you feel differently if the system were open source, with the critical parts auditable by the community?
        Forgeties79 11mo ago
        I mean maybe this is just ignorant of me but can you really build an app where the AI is completely disabled out the box, is totally locally controlled by the user, who is then able to customize its activation with such granularity/control that it will only film them and not other people? Is that something one can actually build and expect to be reliable? Can this actually work…? I mean generally speaking yes open source but the issue is that if it’s open source then people can easily disable the safeguards with a fork so idk I feel mixed on it. I’m still leaning towards yes because in general I am for open source. But I’d have to think about it and hear other people’s takes
  - baobun 11mo ago
    If that is verifiable by the stack being libre software then perhaps.
firefax 11mo ago
No
diamond559 11mo ago
How about I just cut peep holes in all the rooms you live in and video tape you. How would you feel about that hmm?

Could you give more specific reasons?

Because I don't want my life to be training data for some stupid LLM so that you can try to become to the next tech oligarch.

aurintex 11mo ago
Would it make a difference if the data were only stored locally on your device?
- HardwareLust 11mo ago
  It might, depending on how you intend to anonymize the data, and whether you intend to market that data to other companies.
  - aurintex 11mo ago
    The core idea is that the AI runs locally on the device, and all data is stored on the device. Therefore, no data will be shared or sold to other companies. Regarding anonymization --> do you mean, what if I pointed the camera at someone else? That would be filtered out.
    - diamond559 11mo ago
      Oh, so you'll peep on everything we do, but don't worry, only you and your team will be able to be the voyeurs. lol, lmao even. Do you ppl even hear yourselves talk?
    - Forgeties79 11mo ago
      >what if I pointed the camera at someone else? That would be filtered out I'm no expert at this but that sounds a lot harder to implement than you're implying, especially if it's all locally stored and not checked over by a 3rd party. What's to stop me from just doing it anyway?
      - aurintex 11mo ago
        That’s why the plan is to invert the usual logic: instead of capturing everything and trying to filter later, the system would reject everything by default and only respond to what the user explicitly enables --> similar to how wake word detection works. I’ve also thought a lot about trust. Would you feel differently if the system were open source, with the critical parts auditable by the community?
        Forgeties79 11mo ago
        I mean maybe this is just ignorant of me but can you really build an app where the AI is completely disabled out the box, is totally locally controlled by the user, who is then able to customize its activation with such granularity/control that it will only film them and not other people? Is that something one can actually build and expect to be reliable? Can this actually work…? I mean generally speaking yes open source but the issue is that if it’s open source then people can easily disable the safeguards with a fork so idk I feel mixed on it. I’m still leaning towards yes because in general I am for open source. But I’d have to think about it and hear other people’s takes
- baobun 11mo ago
  If that is verifiable by the stack being libre software then perhaps.

firefax 11mo ago

diamond559 11mo ago

How about I just cut peep holes in all the rooms you live in and video tape you. How would you feel about that hmm?