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USA absolutely does things to reduce alcohol consumption. Most famously our high drinking age, but also high taxes, rules about public consumption, and various

USA absolutely does things to reduce alcohol consumption. Most famously our high drinking age, but also high taxes, rules about public consumption, and various local laws. Most countries will let 18 year olds drink beer in a park.

hollerith 1y ago
Until 2004, Massachusetts banned alcohol sales for off-premise consumption on Sundays. Still in effect is a ban on sales for off-premise consumption after 11:00pm and before 08:00am. Also, the number of stores that can sell alcohol for off-premise consumption is restricted by a quota system.
- premisis 1y ago
  Your premise, that a premise is a premisis, is incorrect.
  - hollerith 1y ago
    I do not catch your meaning. Experts sometimes spell it "off-premise": https://www.nabca.org/covid-19-dashboards-premise-retailers https://www.nabca.org/covid-19-dashboards-premise-retailers has "While there are several different retail channels permitted to sell alcoholic beverages for offsite (off-premise) consumption". https://www.parkstreet.com/states/california/ https://www.parkstreet.com/states/california/ has "Retailers [c]an sell product directly to consumers for on or off-premise consumption". "Off-premises" is also used.
    - premisis 1y ago
      Check on that in a dictionary of repute. My own folk etymology of this infelicity is that it started with the mispronunciation, which is actually hard to avoid in rapid speech, and bled over to people simply writing the wrong word. Edit: [in reply to your edit] It is indeed a rather common malapropism.
      - hollerith 1y ago
        I think I'm going to keep on spelling it the way I did.
        premisis 1y ago
        You can do that. And, for some percentage of the population who reads your writing, you will appear under-educated in this matter. It will look like you dont know the right word to use. The other part of the population won't notice.
        alsetmusic 1y ago
        And a very small percentage of the population will need to be right so badly that they point it out on HN. C'mon, I'm super pedantic and even I think you're going a bit far. Also, no need to throw shade when pointing out grammatical and spelling issues.
      - BalinKing 1y ago
        The OED says that the "house or building..." use of "premise" actually comes from an earlier legal meaning ("The subject of a conveyance or bequest..."). Even for those who (inaccurately) think etymology determines "correctness", this isn't an incorrect use of the word.
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  - BalinKing 1y ago
    "Premisis" is not an English word, as far as I can tell.

hollerith 1y ago

Until 2004, Massachusetts banned alcohol sales for off-premise consumption on Sundays. Still in effect is a ban on sales for off-premise consumption after 11:00pm and before 08:00am. Also, the number of stores that can sell alcohol for off-premise consumption is restricted by a quota system.

premisis 1y ago
Your premise, that a premise is a premisis, is incorrect.
- hollerith 1y ago
  I do not catch your meaning. Experts sometimes spell it "off-premise": https://www.nabca.org/covid-19-dashboards-premise-retailers https://www.nabca.org/covid-19-dashboards-premise-retailers has "While there are several different retail channels permitted to sell alcoholic beverages for offsite (off-premise) consumption". https://www.parkstreet.com/states/california/ https://www.parkstreet.com/states/california/ has "Retailers [c]an sell product directly to consumers for on or off-premise consumption". "Off-premises" is also used.
  - premisis 1y ago
    Check on that in a dictionary of repute. My own folk etymology of this infelicity is that it started with the mispronunciation, which is actually hard to avoid in rapid speech, and bled over to people simply writing the wrong word. Edit: [in reply to your edit] It is indeed a rather common malapropism.
    - hollerith 1y ago
      I think I'm going to keep on spelling it the way I did.
      - premisis 1y ago
        You can do that. And, for some percentage of the population who reads your writing, you will appear under-educated in this matter. It will look like you dont know the right word to use. The other part of the population won't notice.
        alsetmusic 1y ago
        And a very small percentage of the population will need to be right so badly that they point it out on HN. C'mon, I'm super pedantic and even I think you're going a bit far. Also, no need to throw shade when pointing out grammatical and spelling issues.
    - BalinKing 1y ago
      The OED says that the "house or building..." use of "premise" actually comes from an earlier legal meaning ("The subject of a conveyance or bequest..."). Even for those who (inaccurately) think etymology determines "correctness", this isn't an incorrect use of the word.
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- BalinKing 1y ago
  "Premisis" is not an English word, as far as I can tell.