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Faster processing leads to more processing and ID checks for everything. When no one notices total surveillance because it is quietly automatic, God forbid nerd

Faster processing leads to more processing and ID checks for everything. When no one notices total surveillance because it is quietly automatic, God forbid nerds make a drama about it right? America needs more Flock cameras!

ascorbic 1y ago
Where are ePassports checked, apart from at borders where they were already checked?
- landgenoot 1y ago
  Depends on the country. In Belgium: hospitals, pubic libraries, prescription medication,
  - ascorbic 1y ago
    Reading the chip?
- throwaway290 1y ago
  in Russia for example passport is used for many things in the country. and they are trying to roll out unified electronic passport system recently.
  - walletdrainer 1y ago
    The internal passport, which is simply a larger format domestic ID
    - throwaway290 1y ago
      the new system supposed to combine both passports in one e passport) hopefully they won't have enough chips thanks to sanctions but yes it's about any digitally readable id that you are required to use. call it a passport or not...
Spooky23 1y ago
I don’t disagree with you, but it’s irrelevant to the topic of electronic passport credentials. Flock doesn’t need ID, and the pervasive surveillance is being done at the backend. The federal regime is linking everything together with Palantir to build the “Total Information Awareness” capability that the Bush administration wanted 20 years ago. You now need to validate your identity via mobile or present a RealID to forward mail. By linking these high trust events to your metadata, all sorts of nasty stuff will emerge.
- throwaway290 1y ago
  > it’s irrelevant to the topic of electronic passport credentials Maybe for some people when they say passport they mean ID. > the pervasive surveillance is being done at the backend You need to get data for it to work. Like with LLMs no data = it doesn't work. OCR on numberplate is getting data. If it was a human identifying these plates there would not be any controversy because it would not scale for total surveillance. But flock means it's done constantly and without most people even knowing and if they knew they would protest. Checking ID is also getting data. Ability to check ID quickly and automatically means checking ID can be done more and in ways people don't even notice.

ascorbic 1y ago

Where are ePassports checked, apart from at borders where they were already checked?

landgenoot 1y ago
Depends on the country. In Belgium: hospitals, pubic libraries, prescription medication,
- ascorbic 1y ago
  Reading the chip?
throwaway290 1y ago
in Russia for example passport is used for many things in the country. and they are trying to roll out unified electronic passport system recently.
- walletdrainer 1y ago
  The internal passport, which is simply a larger format domestic ID
  - throwaway290 1y ago
    the new system supposed to combine both passports in one e passport) hopefully they won't have enough chips thanks to sanctions but yes it's about any digitally readable id that you are required to use. call it a passport or not...

Spooky23 1y ago

I don’t disagree with you, but it’s irrelevant to the topic of electronic passport credentials. Flock doesn’t need ID, and the pervasive surveillance is being done at the backend. The federal regime is linking everything together with Palantir to build the “Total Information Awareness” capability that the Bush administration wanted 20 years ago. You now need to validate your identity via mobile or present a RealID to forward mail. By linking these high trust events to your metadata, all sorts of nasty stuff will emerge.

throwaway290 1y ago
> it’s irrelevant to the topic of electronic passport credentials Maybe for some people when they say passport they mean ID. > the pervasive surveillance is being done at the backend You need to get data for it to work. Like with LLMs no data = it doesn't work. OCR on numberplate is getting data. If it was a human identifying these plates there would not be any controversy because it would not scale for total surveillance. But flock means it's done constantly and without most people even knowing and if they knew they would protest. Checking ID is also getting data. Ability to check ID quickly and automatically means checking ID can be done more and in ways people don't even notice.