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EU is the entity with fascist Hungary and Slovakia having veto powers, isn't it? The one where "free" countries like Denmark push for encryption backdoors? I t

EU is the entity with fascist Hungary and Slovakia having veto powers, isn't it? The one where "free" countries like Denmark push for encryption backdoors? I think I'll avoid them - for good reason

mentalgear 1y ago
While there are fascist leaders in those countries (especially Trump modelled is remodelling of the country after Orban's autocratic and corrupt Hungary), those are just 2 of 27 - so far far from the majority. And many decisions in the EU do not allow for their veto votes anyhow - Orban's Hungary has been withhold now for years Billions of EU investments because of how the countries institutions were hollowed out by him.
- drstewart 1y ago
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  - cassepipe 1y ago
    I call it a table of 27 with two Nazis How do you call a Parliament with two communist representatives, a communist regime ?
  - darccio 1y ago
    That's an unfair characterisation of EU. Hungary and Slovakia didn't join under their current fascist governments. They weren't fascist when they joined in 2004. Kicking them out isn't easy unless there is unanimity. Unfortunately EU requires this kind of quorum for the big decisions, which is kind of a safeguard to precisely avoid going full fascist for the whole EU due to a minority of countries.
    - lm28469 1y ago
      > They weren't fascist when they joined in 2004. And they still aren't by any definition of the word fascism It's 2025 we should invent new terms for new things, not everything bad is "nazi" or "fascist"
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- anon291 1y ago
  27 out of 27 agree that end to end encryption and free speech are dangerous... So spare us all the pearl clutching
  - cassepipe 1y ago
    Except they don't. Last time I checked it didn't pass.
  - MrDresden 1y ago
    You are badly informed. Even Denmark, the main proponent of the bill has withdrawn it's support. What you have just witnessed was a working civil society. I'll take that over the alternative any day.
patrickmcnamara 1y ago
How can Hungary or Slovakia do the same? Literally, how could they? What mechanism exists?
kergonath 1y ago
> The one where "free" countries like Denmark push for encryption backdoors? In a free political system, anybody is able to push any agenda. What matters is what gets adopted. I agree that the EU is not perfect, but you cannot just take a government’s pet project and claim that it is a failure of the political system.
lm28469 1y ago
Lmao, westoids having hard takes on Slovakia after reading headlines on reddit is the funniest thing ever, if only you knew how wrong you are Quick example, people who stop at headlines keep talking about Fico yapping about stopping aids to Ukraine, yet they give more as a percentage of their gdp than Germany, France, the UK, &c. Fico's a piece of shit but don't stop at what he says, half of his bs doesn't make it further than headlines in western medias

EU is the entity with fascist Hungary and Slovakia having veto powers, isn't it? The one where "free" countries like Denmark push for encryption backdoors? I think I'll avoid them - for good reason

mentalgear 1y ago

While there are fascist leaders in those countries (especially Trump modelled is remodelling of the country after Orban's autocratic and corrupt Hungary), those are just 2 of 27 - so far far from the majority. And many decisions in the EU do not allow for their veto votes anyhow - Orban's Hungary has been withhold now for years Billions of EU investments because of how the countries institutions were hollowed out by him.

drstewart 1y ago
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- cassepipe 1y ago
  I call it a table of 27 with two Nazis How do you call a Parliament with two communist representatives, a communist regime ?
- darccio 1y ago
  That's an unfair characterisation of EU. Hungary and Slovakia didn't join under their current fascist governments. They weren't fascist when they joined in 2004. Kicking them out isn't easy unless there is unanimity. Unfortunately EU requires this kind of quorum for the big decisions, which is kind of a safeguard to precisely avoid going full fascist for the whole EU due to a minority of countries.
  - lm28469 1y ago
    > They weren't fascist when they joined in 2004. And they still aren't by any definition of the word fascism It's 2025 we should invent new terms for new things, not everything bad is "nazi" or "fascist"
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anon291 1y ago
27 out of 27 agree that end to end encryption and free speech are dangerous... So spare us all the pearl clutching
- cassepipe 1y ago
  Except they don't. Last time I checked it didn't pass.
- MrDresden 1y ago
  You are badly informed. Even Denmark, the main proponent of the bill has withdrawn it's support. What you have just witnessed was a working civil society. I'll take that over the alternative any day.

patrickmcnamara 1y ago

How can Hungary or Slovakia do the same? Literally, how could they? What mechanism exists?

kergonath 1y ago

> The one where "free" countries like Denmark push for encryption backdoors? In a free political system, anybody is able to push any agenda. What matters is what gets adopted. I agree that the EU is not perfect, but you cannot just take a government’s pet project and claim that it is a failure of the political system.

lm28469 1y ago

Lmao, westoids having hard takes on Slovakia after reading headlines on reddit is the funniest thing ever, if only you knew how wrong you are Quick example, people who stop at headlines keep talking about Fico yapping about stopping aids to Ukraine, yet they give more as a percentage of their gdp than Germany, France, the UK, &c. Fico's a piece of shit but don't stop at what he says, half of his bs doesn't make it further than headlines in western medias