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AI slop, yadda yadda, I get it... But I just want to say, as a former failed bedroom producer who just doesn't have the time (and skill) to make the kind of mus

AI slop, yadda yadda, I get it... But I just want to say, as a former failed bedroom producer who just doesn't have the time (and skill) to make the kind of music I want... I had a BLAST using Suno. I was able to "remaster" some of my old tracks, add in new sections, etc, and isolate/download/edit the stems. I understand it's not fully my creative output... but hearing one of my old, shitty, ableton live projects remastered and extended to sound like something that might actually get listens was really exciting and kind of mind-blowing.

aprilthird2021 11mo ago
Tracks very well with something I saw recently, that the biggest fans of and users of generative AI for writing (and in your case music) are people who want to write a book but never got around to doing it, not people who want to read and pay for books
- standardly 11mo ago
  Yes, I have no commercial interest when it comes to music, it's just something I find joy in. Using Suno did not detract from that joy. If music is a hobby, Suno is an incredibly fun tool. DJ's and producers have been getting hate for years. "It's just a guy with a laptop on stage", "he isn't really playing those instruments", etc. Or think of a band leader, someone who composes but doesn't actually play the indiviudual part. I tried thinking of Suno this way and it helped ease whatever "guilt" I had about my own creative integrity.
  - spencerflem 11mo ago
    So long as the music is just for you and never published, I wish you well
    - greygoo222 11mo ago
      I'd like to see them publish their music!
- embedding-shape 11mo ago
  > that the biggest fans of and users of generative AI for writing (and in your case music) are people who want to write a book but never got around to doing it, not people who want to read and pay for books That makes sense right? At the advent of computer DAWs, the biggest fans and users wasn't people listening to music, but people who want to make music. Production tools are indeed meant for people producing things, not the consumers, as it should be :)
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  - aprilthird2021 11mo ago
    The music made from DAWs had fans though. 99% of slopped out AI music and books don't have fans to the degree that DJs etc do
- shermantanktop 11mo ago
  “I never got around to it” is a useful filter. Actual artists are able to pass through it because they are driven to do the work. If some retired lawyer wants to “write” a novel, good for them I guess. But AI is not the only reason it won’t be worth reading. The other problem is that the “writer” is actually just a reader. Consuming and producing are totally different.
HDThoreaun 11mo ago
Suno is one of the most stunning products Ive used. Theres going to be an explosion of people making comedy/meme music with it no doubt. End of the day I think music is about enjoying yourself(even the catharsis in sad songs)and its clear to me that suno only helps people do that.
bebb 11mo ago
I did the same to some old tracks, feeding them into Suno with different style requests, and it was fascinating. It didn't quite hit the mark on a whole-song scale but I enjoyed the exploration of ideas and genres. If I could compare Suno to anything it'd be like having a studio full of rather disobedient and unpredictable session musicians available 24/7. Even that's not quite what one gets as if you listen closely enough it doesn't really sound like a recording. Like the reverb is all over the place and there are certain other artefacts that are hard to describe but gratingly noticeable once you've spotted them.

aprilthird2021 11mo ago

Tracks very well with something I saw recently, that the biggest fans of and users of generative AI for writing (and in your case music) are people who want to write a book but never got around to doing it, not people who want to read and pay for books

standardly 11mo ago
Yes, I have no commercial interest when it comes to music, it's just something I find joy in. Using Suno did not detract from that joy. If music is a hobby, Suno is an incredibly fun tool. DJ's and producers have been getting hate for years. "It's just a guy with a laptop on stage", "he isn't really playing those instruments", etc. Or think of a band leader, someone who composes but doesn't actually play the indiviudual part. I tried thinking of Suno this way and it helped ease whatever "guilt" I had about my own creative integrity.
- spencerflem 11mo ago
  So long as the music is just for you and never published, I wish you well
  - greygoo222 11mo ago
    I'd like to see them publish their music!
embedding-shape 11mo ago
> that the biggest fans of and users of generative AI for writing (and in your case music) are people who want to write a book but never got around to doing it, not people who want to read and pay for books That makes sense right? At the advent of computer DAWs, the biggest fans and users wasn't people listening to music, but people who want to make music. Production tools are indeed meant for people producing things, not the consumers, as it should be :)
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- aprilthird2021 11mo ago
  The music made from DAWs had fans though. 99% of slopped out AI music and books don't have fans to the degree that DJs etc do
shermantanktop 11mo ago
“I never got around to it” is a useful filter. Actual artists are able to pass through it because they are driven to do the work. If some retired lawyer wants to “write” a novel, good for them I guess. But AI is not the only reason it won’t be worth reading. The other problem is that the “writer” is actually just a reader. Consuming and producing are totally different.

HDThoreaun 11mo ago

Suno is one of the most stunning products Ive used. Theres going to be an explosion of people making comedy/meme music with it no doubt. End of the day I think music is about enjoying yourself(even the catharsis in sad songs)and its clear to me that suno only helps people do that.

bebb 11mo ago

I did the same to some old tracks, feeding them into Suno with different style requests, and it was fascinating. It didn't quite hit the mark on a whole-song scale but I enjoyed the exploration of ideas and genres. If I could compare Suno to anything it'd be like having a studio full of rather disobedient and unpredictable session musicians available 24/7. Even that's not quite what one gets as if you listen closely enough it doesn't really sound like a recording. Like the reverb is all over the place and there are certain other artefacts that are hard to describe but gratingly noticeable once you've spotted them.