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> Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. As soon as they raised like 50M+ (why you'd ever need 50 million dollars to build a terminal—which hav

by dvt 1y ago

> Pricing model for a terminal. What a time to be alive. As soon as they raised like 50M+ (why you'd ever need 50 million dollars to build a terminal—which have been essentially "solved" since the 1970s—is a pretty good question), this was bound to happen. Same nonsense will happen to Zed, etc.

awill 1y ago
Oh no. Did I miss something? Did Zed get a bunch of unnecessary funding that will force them to do some subscription we'll all hate?
- zedsdeadbaby 1y ago
  https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed
- whstl 1y ago
  Well, they already have subscriptions for the agent usage, so the hope is that the editor will keep being free.
mmh0000 1y ago
To be fair, for those of us who live in a terminal, the terminal is/was not solved. Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues. Now, Warp is a terrible product, and I have nothing nice to say about them. But look at modern terminals like Kitty or Ghostty. There are so many very nice improvements. Like mouse support that works well (as opposed to "kind of works, but who needs a mouse?!, won't fix"), fast keyboard response (you'd think it wouldn't be noticeable, but it's very noticeable), copy-and-paste that makes sense and isn't different from everything else on the system, etc. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://ghostty.org/ https://ghostty.org/
- wonger_ 1y ago
  And if you want to overhaul everything obsolete about the terminal and the shell, there's still more room for improvement: https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-line-interface-shell/ https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-lin...
- gray_-_wolf 1y ago
  > Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues. rxvt-unicode is plenty fast and handles unicode well, at least as far as I can tell...

by dvt 1y ago

awill 1y ago

Oh no. Did I miss something? Did Zed get a bunch of unnecessary funding that will force them to do some subscription we'll all hate?

zedsdeadbaby 1y ago
https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed
whstl 1y ago
Well, they already have subscriptions for the agent usage, so the hope is that the editor will keep being free.

mmh0000 1y ago

To be fair, for those of us who live in a terminal, the terminal is/was not solved. Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues. Now, Warp is a terrible product, and I have nothing nice to say about them. But look at modern terminals like Kitty or Ghostty. There are so many very nice improvements. Like mouse support that works well (as opposed to "kind of works, but who needs a mouse?!, won't fix"), fast keyboard response (you'd think it wouldn't be noticeable, but it's very noticeable), copy-and-paste that makes sense and isn't different from everything else on the system, etc. https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/ https://ghostty.org/ https://ghostty.org/

wonger_ 1y ago
And if you want to overhaul everything obsolete about the terminal and the shell, there's still more room for improvement: https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-line-interface-shell/ https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-lin...
gray_-_wolf 1y ago
> Old terminals are slow and have a bunch of weird Unicode issues. rxvt-unicode is plenty fast and handles unicode well, at least as far as I can tell...