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Yes - it is working exactly towards the goals of the governments that are using it (which is not "stopping CSAM")

• ineedasername 11mo ago
  No, you have talked past my actual comment, inserted your own "control dissent, remain in power" purpose for this instead of what I actually said in my comment. I didn't claim "there are no problems that can be solved or goals achieved by means of mass/total surveillance". My topic was societal problems. The political dilemma "how do I retain power and curtail disagreement?" isn't in this category.
  • sib 11mo ago
    No, you are talking past the point of the poster to whom you are replying. "The issue is that there is a place where this model ~is working. It's in China and Russia. The GFW, its Russian equivalent, and the national security laws binding all of their tech companies and public discussion do exactly these things in a way that has allowed their leadership to go unchallenged for decades now. The rest of the world isn't stupid or silly for suggesting these policies. They're following a proven effective model for the outcomes they are looking for. We do ourselves a disservice by acting like there is some inherent flaw in it." I stand by my comment that these technologies are doing exactly what they are intended for.