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>Danes trust their state - for good reason >>Nordic Waste is owned by the family of Torben Østergaard-Nielsen, reported to be the sixth richest person in Denma

>Danes trust their state - for good reason >>Nordic Waste is owned by the family of Torben Østergaard-Nielsen, reported to be the sixth richest person in Denmark. Last week, the Danish Ministry of the Environment issued an injunction against Nordic waste, and yesterday (22 January 2024) the company was declared bankrupt. The company has declared that this ends Nordic Waste’s liabilities. https://eos.org/thelandslideblog/nordic-waste-1 https://eos.org/thelandslideblog/nordic-waste-1 Blind trust always gets betrayed, and all the Scandinavian countries have closed their eyes for too long; I want Olof Palme back. >Its not that Peter Hummelgaard is trying to create a spy state. He just doesn’t understand tech. Oh nooo that poor little guy, cant even think 5 minutes into the future, he's 42 not 80.

codingbot3000 1y ago
Olof Palme? The socialist who squeezed tax payers out like lemons, and a bit more?
- BSDobelix 1y ago
  Jup the guy who was probably killed by his own military because talking with the USSR is against Nato strategy [1] funny how history repeats itself [2] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Sweden-Submarine/dp/0714682756 https://www.amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Sweden-Submarine/d... [2] https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catastrophe-Ukraine/dp/1733647376/261-9557524-9027064?psc=1 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catas...
ghusto 1y ago
It sounds like they're like the Dutch. The government is trusted because they've been shown to be trustworthy, but they are always accountable. If something dodgy happens, people are quick to point it out and demand action. So it's not blind trust. I understand why Americans are so mistrusting of their government, it's because they are untrustworthy. The mistake is thinking everywhere in the world is like that.
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- Yeul 1y ago
  It's because both Denmark and the Netherlands have more than 2 political parties. In the US they basically elect a king who gets all the power for 4 years- including appointing the goddamn Supreme Court!
- burnerzzzzz 1y ago
  Denmark often copy policies and implementation from the netherlands. Our societies are quite similar. Learning about what policies work by looking at other countries is of course a foreign concept to American exceptionalists
burnerzzzzz 1y ago
Nordic Waste and Olof Palme seem like quite random unrelated references. Sweden and Denmark are different countries btw. The public debate in Denmark clearly shows that it’s difficult for non technical people to understand the limits of tech. Regardless of age.
- BSDobelix 1y ago
  >Sweden and Denmark are different countries btw. I was talking about Scandinavian Country's, most of those Country's are called "high trust societies" often with too much trust in their government. >debate in Denmark clearly shows that it’s difficult for non technical people to understand the limits of tech Install a system that reads your private messages is absolutely not a technical thing.
  - burnerzzzzz 1y ago
    Hummelgaard and his colleagues have repeatedly demonstrated that they believe a backdoor can be made that would only be used occasionally only by the right authorities. Even some of the opposition seems to believe this. When discussing politics in foreign countries, consider how much context you are missing. Those of us that live in the country and speak the language have consumed its news for years. HN discussions about politics in foreign countries are bizarre
    - BSDobelix 1y ago
      >Hummelgaard and his colleagues have repeatedly demonstrated that they believe a backdoor can be made that would only be used occasionally only by the right authorities. That's what every politician would say about restricting privacy, it's for the kids, it's in the right hands, we would never betray your trust. >HN discussions about politics in foreign countries are bizarre No really bizarre is your believe that 42yo -->justice<-- minister Hummelgaard is just a naive child who knows nothing about "Internet stuff" In his own words: "We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone's civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services" He absolutely knows what he's talking about.

codingbot3000 1y ago

Olof Palme? The socialist who squeezed tax payers out like lemons, and a bit more?

BSDobelix 1y ago
Jup the guy who was probably killed by his own military because talking with the USSR is against Nato strategy [1] funny how history repeats itself [2] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Sweden-Submarine/dp/0714682756 https://www.amazon.com/Secret-War-Against-Sweden-Submarine/d... [2] https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catastrophe-Ukraine/dp/1733647376/261-9557524-9027064?psc=1 https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Provoked-Washington-Started-Catas...

ghusto 1y ago

It sounds like they're like the Dutch. The government is trusted because they've been shown to be trustworthy, but they are always accountable. If something dodgy happens, people are quick to point it out and demand action. So it's not blind trust. I understand why Americans are so mistrusting of their government, it's because they are untrustworthy. The mistake is thinking everywhere in the world is like that.

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Yeul 1y ago
It's because both Denmark and the Netherlands have more than 2 political parties. In the US they basically elect a king who gets all the power for 4 years- including appointing the goddamn Supreme Court!
burnerzzzzz 1y ago
Denmark often copy policies and implementation from the netherlands. Our societies are quite similar. Learning about what policies work by looking at other countries is of course a foreign concept to American exceptionalists

burnerzzzzz 1y ago

Nordic Waste and Olof Palme seem like quite random unrelated references. Sweden and Denmark are different countries btw. The public debate in Denmark clearly shows that it’s difficult for non technical people to understand the limits of tech. Regardless of age.

BSDobelix 1y ago
>Sweden and Denmark are different countries btw. I was talking about Scandinavian Country's, most of those Country's are called "high trust societies" often with too much trust in their government. >debate in Denmark clearly shows that it’s difficult for non technical people to understand the limits of tech Install a system that reads your private messages is absolutely not a technical thing.
- burnerzzzzz 1y ago
  Hummelgaard and his colleagues have repeatedly demonstrated that they believe a backdoor can be made that would only be used occasionally only by the right authorities. Even some of the opposition seems to believe this. When discussing politics in foreign countries, consider how much context you are missing. Those of us that live in the country and speak the language have consumed its news for years. HN discussions about politics in foreign countries are bizarre
  - BSDobelix 1y ago
    >Hummelgaard and his colleagues have repeatedly demonstrated that they believe a backdoor can be made that would only be used occasionally only by the right authorities. That's what every politician would say about restricting privacy, it's for the kids, it's in the right hands, we would never betray your trust. >HN discussions about politics in foreign countries are bizarre No really bizarre is your believe that 42yo -->justice<-- minister Hummelgaard is just a naive child who knows nothing about "Internet stuff" In his own words: "We must break with the totally erroneous perception that it is everyone's civil liberty to communicate on encrypted messaging services" He absolutely knows what he's talking about.