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Ugh, I'd prefer people keep passion for the bedroom and just convey information straightforwardly without trying to "sell" it to me. Adding a false excitement

by Y_Y 1y ago

Ugh, I'd prefer people keep passion for the bedroom and just convey information straightforwardly without trying to "sell" it to me. Adding a false excitement signal to the information is a hindrance to me as a viewer. If you want Tony Robbins then go and see him. If you want an overview of the new product architecture lets keep calm and get on with it.

BoorishBears 1y ago
The irony the deck presents 3 very different presenters to show that you don't need to be Tony Robbins to be passionate. If you can't be passionate, don't make it a presentation. Passionate doesn't need to mean over-the-top, but it means speaking on the topic effectively and in a way that reflects believing there's a reason for these people to sit there and listen to you. No one is forcing people to do presentations, but once you put people in a situation where they're expected to give you their undivided attention for a block of time, those are very reasonable table stakes. There's always blog posts, articles, mailing lists, HN posts, etc. if you don't believe there's a strong need for people to set aside time consume your information in the form of a presentation.
- phainopepla2 1y ago
  > No one is forcing people to do presentations To the contrary, pretty much every presentation I've ever given has been one that I would not have done if it were up to me
  - BoorishBears 1y ago
    Ah sorry, I gave way too much credit to the reader. Please do continue to give bad presentations and insist it's just not in you to do better.
Agingcoder 1y ago
I disagree, but it doesn’t mean you’re wrong - we might just be looking for different things. My view is that if you’re going to talk like a bored robot, then I need a transcript or a paper which is much shorter than a talk. I distinctly remember not going to classes at university because the teachers wouldn’t give me anything beyond reading a book aloud. I just read the book at home. Now, if you’re able to indicate what’s important and not important, what’s interesting and what isn’t , and why you like it , I’ll be delighted to watch your talk. I think it’s very difficult to be interested in something new if the presenter doesn’t seem to care about it. This is different from something written , where I expect something dry anyway.
- 1718627440 1y ago
  That's why it is called a lecture. :-)
  - IIsi50MHz 1y ago
    It's not even a lecture if all they do is read from the book. I'd say that's one step away from phoning it in. (-:
    - 1718627440 1y ago
      The act of reading to an audience IS what is called a lecture.
aidenn0 1y ago
If there's zero passion in it, just write a fucking blog article; don't waste my time with a presentation.
theshrike79 1y ago
"passion" here means "be excited about the subject", which usually (neurospicy people exluced naturally) automatically brings up feelings from the speaker in a "this is cool and I want to share it" kind of way. If I want to listen to someone read a slide deck word for word in a monotone voice, I can have an AI do it. I'd much rather read a blog post at that point though.

by Y_Y 1y ago

BoorishBears 1y ago

The irony the deck presents 3 very different presenters to show that you don't need to be Tony Robbins to be passionate. If you can't be passionate, don't make it a presentation. Passionate doesn't need to mean over-the-top, but it means speaking on the topic effectively and in a way that reflects believing there's a reason for these people to sit there and listen to you. No one is forcing people to do presentations, but once you put people in a situation where they're expected to give you their undivided attention for a block of time, those are very reasonable table stakes. There's always blog posts, articles, mailing lists, HN posts, etc. if you don't believe there's a strong need for people to set aside time consume your information in the form of a presentation.

phainopepla2 1y ago
> No one is forcing people to do presentations To the contrary, pretty much every presentation I've ever given has been one that I would not have done if it were up to me
- BoorishBears 1y ago
  Ah sorry, I gave way too much credit to the reader. Please do continue to give bad presentations and insist it's just not in you to do better.

Agingcoder 1y ago

I disagree, but it doesn’t mean you’re wrong - we might just be looking for different things. My view is that if you’re going to talk like a bored robot, then I need a transcript or a paper which is much shorter than a talk. I distinctly remember not going to classes at university because the teachers wouldn’t give me anything beyond reading a book aloud. I just read the book at home. Now, if you’re able to indicate what’s important and not important, what’s interesting and what isn’t , and why you like it , I’ll be delighted to watch your talk. I think it’s very difficult to be interested in something new if the presenter doesn’t seem to care about it. This is different from something written , where I expect something dry anyway.

1718627440 1y ago
That's why it is called a lecture. :-)
- IIsi50MHz 1y ago
  It's not even a lecture if all they do is read from the book. I'd say that's one step away from phoning it in. (-:
  - 1718627440 1y ago
    The act of reading to an audience IS what is called a lecture.

aidenn0 1y ago

If there's zero passion in it, just write a fucking blog article; don't waste my time with a presentation.

theshrike79 1y ago

"passion" here means "be excited about the subject", which usually (neurospicy people exluced naturally) automatically brings up feelings from the speaker in a "this is cool and I want to share it" kind of way. If I want to listen to someone read a slide deck word for word in a monotone voice, I can have an AI do it. I'd much rather read a blog post at that point though.