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What am I scared of? I'm concerned for your grip on reality if you think a free market think tank is a bunch of fascists. That's about as factual as me calling

What am I scared of? I'm concerned for your grip on reality if you think a free market think tank is a bunch of fascists. That's about as factual as me calling Obama a communist.

cess11 1y ago
Fascism is capitalism violently colonising its home turf, there is no conflict between a group calling itself a "free market think tank" and being part of a fascist movement or tendency. Obama is quite pro-capitalism and hence much closer to fascism than any leftist position. As a politician he also invested heavily in and innovated deceitful application of violent force, mostly abroad, but kind of rolled out the carpet for it to turn explicitly fascist by 'boomeranging' back home. I suspect insights like these frighten you, because they would force you to reevaluate your identities and place in society.
- gadders 1y ago
  That's a pretty broad definition of Fascism you have there. By your reckoning Hitler and the Manhattan Institute are broadly equivalent.
  - cess11 1y ago
    Not really. What other political tendencies perform violent colonisation at home? And, well, yeah, they have a lot of similarities. They both agree on things like 'Arbeit macht Frei', extremely violent punishment of petty crime and industrial futurism regarding e.g. unrestrained extractive energy exploitation and so on. It's harder to figure out but it seems to me that the Manhattan Institute agrees with Hitler on the jewish question, jews need to be removed from 'white' societies, but disagrees with immediate industrial extermination and rather opts for the more palatable solution of having them migrate to and serve a colony. I.e. the kind of Madagascar plan that mainstream zionism amounts to, though it targets Palestine instead of the island.
    - gadders 1y ago
      You seem like a nice chap but I think our views on politics are fundamentally different and I don't think we could ever find common ground.

What am I scared of? I'm concerned for your grip on reality if you think a free market think tank is a bunch of fascists. That's about as factual as me calling Obama a communist.

cess11 1y ago

Fascism is capitalism violently colonising its home turf, there is no conflict between a group calling itself a "free market think tank" and being part of a fascist movement or tendency. Obama is quite pro-capitalism and hence much closer to fascism than any leftist position. As a politician he also invested heavily in and innovated deceitful application of violent force, mostly abroad, but kind of rolled out the carpet for it to turn explicitly fascist by 'boomeranging' back home. I suspect insights like these frighten you, because they would force you to reevaluate your identities and place in society.

gadders 1y ago
That's a pretty broad definition of Fascism you have there. By your reckoning Hitler and the Manhattan Institute are broadly equivalent.
- cess11 1y ago
  Not really. What other political tendencies perform violent colonisation at home? And, well, yeah, they have a lot of similarities. They both agree on things like 'Arbeit macht Frei', extremely violent punishment of petty crime and industrial futurism regarding e.g. unrestrained extractive energy exploitation and so on. It's harder to figure out but it seems to me that the Manhattan Institute agrees with Hitler on the jewish question, jews need to be removed from 'white' societies, but disagrees with immediate industrial extermination and rather opts for the more palatable solution of having them migrate to and serve a colony. I.e. the kind of Madagascar plan that mainstream zionism amounts to, though it targets Palestine instead of the island.
  - gadders 1y ago
    You seem like a nice chap but I think our views on politics are fundamentally different and I don't think we could ever find common ground.