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> cybercrime — which the U.N. estimates costs $10.5 trillion around the world annually. That's almost 10% of global GDP. Who comes up with these numbers?

orbifold 1y ago
It will all make sense once you realize who works at the UN, basically nepo babies of all colors and variety, including second cousins of Saudi royalty etc.
- tdb7893 1y ago
  One of my family members was a research director at the UN and came from a middle class American family. It has its problems (he certainly has his share of complaints) but the idea that they are all nepo babies is incorrect and they do have serious researchers. Also, are we sure that the $10.5 trillion is a UN generated number? Other people in the comments seem to think it was made up by some other organization.
  - orbifold 1y ago
    A relative of mine worked for the UN and interfaced with the UN after they left for a non-profit. Anyone that knows anything about them and also just simply observing what and how they are doing things should have no doubt that it is filled with people that got there by using their connections. And you absolutely constantly run into people that have no business being there other than through nepotism. Btw. I am sure that US staff is less likely to be a total nepo baby, but because the UN "has" to hire from all over the world, most roles are not filled like that.
NaomiLehman 1y ago
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- whimsicalism 1y ago
  complete and utter nonsense. you have to be innumerate to believe that $1 in $10 is being stolen by cybercriminals.
  - NaomiLehman 1y ago
    you're right. The worldwide sum in nonsense - 10%. As I said, I work with the US market and $0.5T out of $30T might happen this year.
varenc 1y ago
It might be including the cost of the entire cybersecurity business sector? Salaries of security engineers, security vendors, etc. Not just fallout from hacks. edit: cybersecurity ventures seems to be the real source for the 10.5T number: https://cybersecurityventures.com/cybercrime-damage-costs-10-trillion-by-2025 https://cybersecurityventures.com/cybercrime-damage-costs-10... Apparently their methodology is just assume $3T cybercrime cost in 2015, then compound it by 15% annual.

orbifold 1y ago

It will all make sense once you realize who works at the UN, basically nepo babies of all colors and variety, including second cousins of Saudi royalty etc.

tdb7893 1y ago
One of my family members was a research director at the UN and came from a middle class American family. It has its problems (he certainly has his share of complaints) but the idea that they are all nepo babies is incorrect and they do have serious researchers. Also, are we sure that the $10.5 trillion is a UN generated number? Other people in the comments seem to think it was made up by some other organization.
- orbifold 1y ago
  A relative of mine worked for the UN and interfaced with the UN after they left for a non-profit. Anyone that knows anything about them and also just simply observing what and how they are doing things should have no doubt that it is filled with people that got there by using their connections. And you absolutely constantly run into people that have no business being there other than through nepotism. Btw. I am sure that US staff is less likely to be a total nepo baby, but because the UN "has" to hire from all over the world, most roles are not filled like that.

NaomiLehman 1y ago

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whimsicalism 1y ago
complete and utter nonsense. you have to be innumerate to believe that $1 in $10 is being stolen by cybercriminals.
- NaomiLehman 1y ago
  you're right. The worldwide sum in nonsense - 10%. As I said, I work with the US market and $0.5T out of $30T might happen this year.

varenc 1y ago

It might be including the cost of the entire cybersecurity business sector? Salaries of security engineers, security vendors, etc. Not just fallout from hacks. edit: cybersecurity ventures seems to be the real source for the 10.5T number: https://cybersecurityventures.com/cybercrime-damage-costs-10-trillion-by-2025 https://cybersecurityventures.com/cybercrime-damage-costs-10... Apparently their methodology is just assume $3T cybercrime cost in 2015, then compound it by 15% annual.