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Do they still heavily rely on PageRank? With the amount of traffic data Google has, I would expect more statistical approaches based on what users click (rather

by pav3l 14y ago

Do they still heavily rely on PageRank? With the amount of traffic data Google has, I would expect more statistical approaches based on what users click (rather than graph algorithms based on how the web is linked) to be the backbone for ranking their results.

j2kun 14y ago
PageRank is definitely still used, although it's doubtfully the sole determinant of ranking results. See http://jeremykun.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/googles-page-rank-why-it-doesnt-work-anymore/ http://jeremykun.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/googles-page-rank-...
- technel 14y ago
  I agree with your statement, but I'm confused by the story in the link... I haven't come across a message board that doesn't use rel="nofollow" in a few years (that NYT article is from 2010). How would these negative reviews bolster his PageRank?
  - wahnfrieden 14y ago
    Google seems to still weight those links, just differently or with less weight.
iskander 14y ago
It's a closely guarded secret but at the very least we know that every page is annotated with many different signals, which are combined with magical secret sauce.
franze 14y ago
i'm always disgusted when a googler publishes anything about pagerank. yes, google is still using links as a single in their search result, but the original pagerank paper is from 1998, we can sure as hell be sure that they iterrated/rewrote it a few thousand times since then. every time a (any) googler now publishes a paper (or presentation) about (the old) page rank a horde of too well paid SEOs is pointing to it for the importance of pagerank, and why linking out is bad, and whatever bullshit (i.e.: later in this thread the based on nothing hypothesis about "nofollow") they come up with. everytime it happens, the SEO bullshit dance starts anew. (in my opinion pagerank is thought-cancer, please see my old TC article for more about this http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/07/startups-linking-to-your-competition-will-help-you-no-really/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/07/startups-linking-to-your-co... )

by pav3l 14y ago

j2kun 14y ago

PageRank is definitely still used, although it's doubtfully the sole determinant of ranking results. See http://jeremykun.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/googles-page-rank-why-it-doesnt-work-anymore/ http://jeremykun.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/googles-page-rank-...

technel 14y ago
I agree with your statement, but I'm confused by the story in the link... I haven't come across a message board that doesn't use rel="nofollow" in a few years (that NYT article is from 2010). How would these negative reviews bolster his PageRank?
- wahnfrieden 14y ago
  Google seems to still weight those links, just differently or with less weight.

iskander 14y ago

It's a closely guarded secret but at the very least we know that every page is annotated with many different signals, which are combined with magical secret sauce.

franze 14y ago

i'm always disgusted when a googler publishes anything about pagerank. yes, google is still using links as a single in their search result, but the original pagerank paper is from 1998, we can sure as hell be sure that they iterrated/rewrote it a few thousand times since then. every time a (any) googler now publishes a paper (or presentation) about (the old) page rank a horde of too well paid SEOs is pointing to it for the importance of pagerank, and why linking out is bad, and whatever bullshit (i.e.: later in this thread the based on nothing hypothesis about "nofollow") they come up with. everytime it happens, the SEO bullshit dance starts anew. (in my opinion pagerank is thought-cancer, please see my old TC article for more about this http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/07/startups-linking-to-your-competition-will-help-you-no-really/ http://techcrunch.com/2010/07/07/startups-linking-to-your-co... )