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Tony Iommi almost quit playing when he lost two of his fingertips in a workplace accident, but was convinced that he could learn to play with the remaining stum
by runep 11mo ago
Tony Iommi almost quit playing when he lost two of his fingertips in a workplace accident, but was convinced that he could learn to play with the remaining stumps after listening to Django Reinhardt who also lost the use of two of his fingers, but adapted his playing style.
- boxed 11mo agoPlus most of iommi is written while listening to Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules on repeat :P
- lapcat 11mo agoIt seems of questionable legality to blatantly use his name for your product.
- cluckindan 11mo agoTrademarks only apply within an industry.
- lapcat 11mo agoI didn't say it's trademark violation. A person's name is not a trademark. It's about using someone's name to promote a product that the person is not associated with in any way. Iommi is not the name of a band. The band's name is Black Sabbath. Tony Iommi is the name of a person, the guitar player of Black Sabbath.
- cluckindan 11mo agoThe project isn’t named tonyiommi, though. Iommi is the name of Tony Iommi’s solo music project, though.
- boxed 11mo agoHmm, I don't think that's correct. The single "Gone" has written "IOMMI" on it, but I think that's a design flourish mostly. There is an artist named "IOMMI" on Spotify though: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7H9kxQfhfZ0kJ7IOD3CTAP?si=l9x42j99Q3ma7zQPDVV1gQ https://open.spotify.com/artist/7H9kxQfhfZ0kJ7IOD3CTAP?si=l9...
- mwbeatty 11mo agoYou mean like Django?
- lapcat 11mo agoAlready addressed in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45758830 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45758830
- wavemode 11mo agoI'm not following how or why a big deal is being made out of this. Tony Iommi does not own the name Iommi. He's not the only person in the world with that name. He doesn't get any sort of social or legal right that the name not be used for other things just because he's wealthy and famous.
- lapcat 11mo ago> I'm not following how or why a big deal is being made out of this. It's not a "big deal". The author and his project will very likely not even be noticed by Mr. Iommi and his legal representatives. I just made a comment, and it became a big argument only because people chose to argue with me. > Tony Iommi does not own the name Iommi. I never said he did. In fact, I just said in the comment you replied to that it's not a trademark violation. > He's not the only person in the world with that name. Irrelevant. It's obvious from the project, and has been confirmed by the author, that the allusion is specifically to Tony Iommi. > He doesn't get any sort of social or legal right that the name not be used for other things just because he's wealthy and famous. You're missing the point, because being famous is basically a prerequisite for providing a product endorsement. It's not that famous people have special rights but rather that an anonymous name provides no extra marketing value to a product. Imagine if someone unrelated to Tony Iommi sold "Iommi Guitars". You think that wouldn't be a problem?
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- boxed 11mo ago> Imagine if someone unrelated to Tony Iommi sold "Iommi Guitars". You think that wouldn't be a problem? It would. Because that's the same domain. Making HTML tables and forms isn't even closely related. No matter how you look at it.
- lapcat 11mo ago> Because that's the same domain. You're again mistakenly thinking of trademark law. Toni Iommi is not a product but a person whose name is not trademarked. He doesn't have a "domain". He just happens to be famous for being a guitar player. The issue with "Iommi Guitars" is that it gives the impression that Tony Iommi the person endorses those guitars. But Tony Iommi could endorse any product. For example, he endorses a perfume: https://www.nordstrom.com/s/tony-iommi-monkey-special-parfum/8101983 https://www.nordstrom.com/s/tony-iommi-monkey-special-parfum... If someone not associated with Tony Iommi sold a "Tony Iommi Perfume" that would also be a problem, not because the name "Tony Iommi" is trademarked but rather because it gives the impression that Tony Iommi endorses the product when he does not. Celebrity endorsements are valuable, and celebrities endorse lots of products that have nothing to do with the primary profession for which they are famous. The actor Paul Newman has a whole line of food products. Moreover, it's very common nowadays for musicians to use computers heavily, so it wouldn't be surprising for them to get into programming too.
- boxed 11mo agoI mean.. there are a lot of people with that name, and it's an homage.
- lapcat 11mo ago> I mean.. there are a lot of people with that name What are you saying here? You already admitted publicy that it was about Tony Iommi the guitarist of Black Sabbath and not anyone else with the name. > it's an homage Which of course directly contradicts the first clause of your sentence.
- boxed 11mo agoMaybe I'm confused. Which law would you presume was violated? Did Django violate the same law when it was named Django? Did Python violate that same law?
- lapcat 11mo agoThe issue is that Tony Iommi is a live person, so using his name can give the impression that he endorses or is in some way associated with the product. Django Reinhardt died in 1953 and thus cannot endorse a product 50 years later. Monty Python is not a person.
- boxed 11mo agoMonty Python was at the time a group of people (seems worse than a single person), and afaik also a trademark (also seems worse). But yea, maybe Python made a legal gamble that just happened to work out. I am not a lawyer :shrug:
- ofrzeta 11mo agoI don't think anyone is under the impression that Tony Iommi is promoting a web framework.
- lapcat 11mo ago