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I wasn't arguing about semantics. Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic so they saw the latest propaganda from Russia & decided t

I wasn't arguing about semantics. Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic so they saw the latest propaganda from Russia & decided that the new policy would be the proper response.

ggm 1y ago
Russia tested a nuclear capable long duration engine and the US response as reported to media is that the WH requested a resumption of nuclear weapons tests. Not nuclear engine tests.
- measurablefunc 1y ago
  The public will be happy w/ their response. You're drawing distinctions very few people care about which is why Trump is president & you're arguing w/ random internet strangers about the absurdity of the response.
mindslight 1y ago
> Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic Apparently you haven't noticed that Tramp has been purging anyone loyal to the United States as a country and installing subservient apparatchiks in their place. This is not a dynamic which selects for intelligence, competence, or subject matter focus.
- measurablefunc 1y ago
  I don't think the nuclear physicists & engineers building the bombs are any less competent so I don't know what point you're making. In fact, the people doing the actual work are still the same people as they were when Biden was president.
  - mindslight 1y ago
    You were talking about policy, not the people designing and building bombs.
    - measurablefunc 1y ago
      I didn't specify whether it was policy or implementation or both. The government isn't a monolithic structure w/ everyone being equally stupid or intelligent. In the case of nuclear warheads I'm certain the people who have to do the actual work are not idiots even if the policymakers are idiots.
      - mindslight 1y ago
        > decided that the new policy would be the proper response. How were you talking about anyone but policymakers?
        measurablefunc 1y ago
        > people who work for him Does not mean only policymakers. In any case, I'm not concerned about this issue so good luck to you.
        mindslight 1y ago
        They do when we're talking about policies being made? I'm not super invested in this either, I just don't understand why we're going around in circles here.
        measurablefunc 1y ago
        Assume less & you'll be less confused in general.
        mindslight 1y ago
        I shouldn't have assumed you meant all of the words you said, or what?
- ggm 1y ago
  If you're willing to work in this space, there's probably a cohort who would like to put a shot in the hole and make it go off. The simulations are good, but people have life goals and "working on a bomb including setting one off" is probably there. Unless there are some shot holes prepped, there is a bit of engineering to get there first. "As quickly as possible" is slow, unless you repudiate the other treaty and do an above ground or underwater shot which the US hasn't done since 1992 and even then it was basically a buried one. It hasn't done an underwater test for far longer.

ggm 1y ago

Russia tested a nuclear capable long duration engine and the US response as reported to media is that the WH requested a resumption of nuclear weapons tests. Not nuclear engine tests.

measurablefunc 1y ago
The public will be happy w/ their response. You're drawing distinctions very few people care about which is why Trump is president & you're arguing w/ random internet strangers about the absurdity of the response.

mindslight 1y ago

> Trump is an idiot but the people who work for him are not as idiotic Apparently you haven't noticed that Tramp has been purging anyone loyal to the United States as a country and installing subservient apparatchiks in their place. This is not a dynamic which selects for intelligence, competence, or subject matter focus.

measurablefunc 1y ago
I don't think the nuclear physicists & engineers building the bombs are any less competent so I don't know what point you're making. In fact, the people doing the actual work are still the same people as they were when Biden was president.
- mindslight 1y ago
  You were talking about policy, not the people designing and building bombs.
  - measurablefunc 1y ago
    I didn't specify whether it was policy or implementation or both. The government isn't a monolithic structure w/ everyone being equally stupid or intelligent. In the case of nuclear warheads I'm certain the people who have to do the actual work are not idiots even if the policymakers are idiots.
    - mindslight 1y ago
      > decided that the new policy would be the proper response. How were you talking about anyone but policymakers?
      - measurablefunc 1y ago
        > people who work for him Does not mean only policymakers. In any case, I'm not concerned about this issue so good luck to you.
        mindslight 1y ago
        They do when we're talking about policies being made? I'm not super invested in this either, I just don't understand why we're going around in circles here.
        measurablefunc 1y ago
        Assume less & you'll be less confused in general.
        mindslight 1y ago
        I shouldn't have assumed you meant all of the words you said, or what?
ggm 1y ago
If you're willing to work in this space, there's probably a cohort who would like to put a shot in the hole and make it go off. The simulations are good, but people have life goals and "working on a bomb including setting one off" is probably there. Unless there are some shot holes prepped, there is a bit of engineering to get there first. "As quickly as possible" is slow, unless you repudiate the other treaty and do an above ground or underwater shot which the US hasn't done since 1992 and even then it was basically a buried one. It hasn't done an underwater test for far longer.