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India too has been adding more green cover than ever. Higher CO2 in atmosphere leads to faster growth of forests. But more important factor is urbanization for
by aiauthoritydev 11mo ago
India too has been adding more green cover than ever. Higher CO2 in atmosphere leads to faster growth of forests. But more important factor is urbanization for India. As people move to cities the need to cut down trees goes down.
- navigate8310 11mo agoDoesn't that put pressure on the cities itself especially the peripheral counties to pave way for housing and concrete roads?
- roncesvalles 11mo agoCities tend to expand up. Almost all buildings in Mumbai that are under 5 stories are targeted for "redevelopment" i.e. a developer buying it out and building something taller in its place.
- navigate8310 11mo agoThat is too costly for cities that have cheap and abandoned agricultural land waiting to be deforested and build upon.
- devnullbrain 11mo agoYes, and it's a good thing. Either way, you need to fit the needs of the same number of people. If they're in a dense city near everything they need, they use less space. Policies to limit urban sprawl just an expensive way to create more sprawl elsewhere - and roads to it.
- mc32 11mo agoGuess it depends on whether subsistence living is more resource intensive than urban living where on average urbanites own more possessions per capita.
- worik 11mo ago> Yes, and it's a good thing It is. I have seen the data But I live in a rural area of New Zealand and I also see how people moving onto farm land greatly increases tree cover (not forrest) and biodiversity, I assume because people plant gardens, and closely husband them In New Zealand farmers are grossly damaging to the environment. They clear everything and plant mono cultures and treat water as exhaustable and rivers as waste dumps So yes people in cities is a good thing, but people in rural areas are good, to
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- deadbabe 11mo agoSo why are the forests growing faster
- cyberax 11mo agoThe TLDR is that they aren't. Global warming made some areas more hospitable to forests (warmer, more precipitation) and increased drought resistance counteracts some of the increased aridity in other ares: https://e360.yale.edu/features/greening-drylands-carbon-dioxide-climate-change https://e360.yale.edu/features/greening-drylands-carbon-diox...
- galagawinkle489 11mo agoThe atmosphere has so far barely changed in temperature compared to natural variations in temperature over time that had smaller and lesser effects than the effect we are seeing. The abnormally rapid rise in CO2 levels we are seeing is unusual and accords better with the unusualness of rapid global greening. It isn't climate change that is causing it. It is CO2, directly.
- adornKey 11mo agoIf you look at the absorption spectrum of CO2 and historical data, I think it would be more correct to say, that CO2 has caused a noticeable increase in temperature in the past, but now absorption has reached a saturation level. The last 100 years temperature effects might have been dominant, but in the future direct effects of CO2 are absolutely going to dominate.
- Spooky23 11mo agoClimate patterns are changing. My kids will retire with the cheap old farmland we bought that I’m planting black walnuts on. Upstate NY was ideal maple syrup production territory for years. Now, we’ve changed from USDA Zone 5 to 6, so the region will be more like western Virginia in 20 years.
- torginus 11mo agoOne nice thing about these developing countries is due to the power infrastructure tends to be not very good - which prompts people to take things into their hands and install solar, not to save the planet but to stave off brownouts, and be able to run the AC around the clock to stave off the heat. For residential, solar + batteries straight up beats legacy infra on cost, and with the upcoming cheap sodium batteries, things are only going to get better.
- jkestner 11mo agoLike how mobile payments took off in Africa early because they weren't held back by existing infrastructure.
- taneq 11mo agoIn fact mobile infrastructure in general kind of leapfrogged land lines in many developing nations. Why run tens of thousands of kilometres of land lines when you could just dot self-sufficient wireless comms towers around the place?
- hinkley 11mo agoTokyo is so built up that cellphones were cheaper in the 90’s than land lines.
- profsummergig 11mo agoIndia doesn't do it in an organized way though. You'll read about some 70 year old woman/man in an obscure village who's reforested thousands of acres on their own, or resuscitated a lake (e.g. the lake guy in Bengaluru). But there's little effort to harness their knowledge in a systematic way, add knowledge from others into the knowledge bank, do peer review, and then systematically dispense the knowledge in the form of a kit to environmentalists and bureaucrats across the country. China did this, and that's why they're so successful.
- PeaceTed 11mo agoYeah another example of the saying "India is a disappointment to both optimists and pessimists".
- xandrius 11mo agoDo you personally know that or just from feelings? Because I know of several organisations doing this and are organising projects state-wide (they focused in Bihar and surroundings).
- birksherty 11mo agoMeh! Practical result matters not papers. Everything done in paper. What I've seen in India is trees are planted with publicity, photos, but are not take care of and dies, another program starts and plants thousands of trees, dies within a year, circle goes round. Otherhand seeing many hills destroyed for construction needs. The number of planted tree grows but benefit not seen, except for the group doing it. People are too into feelings, by seeing the headlines they need to feel good that's why so much publicity is needed, so many banners everywhere, ads in news-paper spending billions by gov.
- profsummergig 11mo agoI would love for you to point me in the direction of the knowledge-bases (peer-reviewed ones) that these organizations have produced. If you can also point me in the direction of the kits they've produced, that would be extra sweet. If you don't, readers of this comment are going to assume there aren't any, and you're just doing an ego-defense of Indian "capability".
- HexPhantom 11mo agoWhile the trend looks positive on paper, it's worth digging into the quality and type of vegetation being added