idk man, I would say the opposite but I tended to avoid the Illy shops because I already knew I didn't care for that brand much. Right here in NJ a shop a bloc

idk man, I would say the opposite but I tended to avoid the Illy shops because I already knew I didn't care for that brand much. Right here in NJ a shop a block away from me had it as their distinguishing feature and I didn't like it much (still better than sbux though). And then when I go on vacation in Italy and other European countries I see Illy mostly in vending machines, so when I see and Illy shop I'm not tempted, when there are 500 other more interesting looking shops every direction you look. And in all of those, I mostly had a lot of cappucinos, and they were basically all excellent. I cannot call Italy's coffe bad. But I confess I never drink it perfectly straight. Usually cappucino. The European style, a pretty small and strong espresso that is foamed. Not a honking big american cup.