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fatbird 1y ago
This entire encounter is fake. What are you talking about? CBP has been in Illinois for weeks. Greg Bovino, their commander, has been hauled before a judge this week to testify about how CBP (and he, personally) have violated the judge's TRO against unjustified use of tear gas [0]. This is very basic factual stuff that's in the news every day. How do you not know this is going on? [0] https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-chicago-news-border-patrol-chief-greg-bovino-appear-federal-court-immigration-operations/18079810/ https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-chicago-news-border-patrol-...
dragonwriter 1y ago
> Minors don't have biometrics. Minors do, in fact, have biometrics. Identification with them may be less reliable for some kinds of biometrics, but... reliability isn’t a hallmark of the current regimes “immigration enforcement” mechanisms. > They are not obligated to have any sort of ID, especially citizens. This is also true of adults, who are not obligated to have or carry ID if they are citizens (immigrants, both minors and adults, are a different story, are required to have ID, and are required to have biometrics taken unless they are under 14.) Obviously, it can’t rule out citizens (though it could compare to databases available to the feds, which I would assume state ID databases are), since not all citizens will have biometrics of any kind, or even ID photos on file, but if they have presumed that the targets are immigrants, then scanning can be used to compare to records of documented immigrants, reinforcing (note I do not say justiying) the conclusion tha they are illegally present if it fails to match. They can also be used to build intelligence databases of contacts even if not used to support immediate detention. > Also, what in the fuck would CBP be doing in Chicago? CBP, and more specifically Border Patrol, the main enforcement agency within CBP, is everywhere the Administration’s immhration crackdown is beig executed, and much of the most violent “immigration enforcement” attributed to “ICE” is actually Border Patrol, not ICE.
solid_fuel 1y ago
> This entire encounter is fake. No, this entire encounter is illegal. It is a crime, being committed by the republican administration running the federal government and endorsed by every republican in congress who has declined to reign in the illegal behavior of the trump administration. It is, however, very real. If you reside in American, then this is the reality you live in, imposed upon you by republican voters. You don't get to just plug your ears and cover your eyes.
tomhow 1y ago
Please don't fulminate on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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This entire encounter is fake. What are you talking about? CBP has been in Illinois for weeks. Greg Bovino, their commander, has been hauled before a judge this week to testify about how CBP (and he, personally) have violated the judge's TRO against unjustified use of tear gas [0]. This is very basic factual stuff that's in the news every day. How do you not know this is going on? [0] https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-chicago-news-border-patrol-chief-greg-bovino-appear-federal-court-immigration-operations/18079810/ https://abc7chicago.com/post/ice-chicago-news-border-patrol-...

dragonwriter 1y ago

> Minors don't have biometrics. Minors do, in fact, have biometrics. Identification with them may be less reliable for some kinds of biometrics, but... reliability isn’t a hallmark of the current regimes “immigration enforcement” mechanisms. > They are not obligated to have any sort of ID, especially citizens. This is also true of adults, who are not obligated to have or carry ID if they are citizens (immigrants, both minors and adults, are a different story, are required to have ID, and are required to have biometrics taken unless they are under 14.) Obviously, it can’t rule out citizens (though it could compare to databases available to the feds, which I would assume state ID databases are), since not all citizens will have biometrics of any kind, or even ID photos on file, but if they have presumed that the targets are immigrants, then scanning can be used to compare to records of documented immigrants, reinforcing (note I do not say justiying) the conclusion tha they are illegally present if it fails to match. They can also be used to build intelligence databases of contacts even if not used to support immediate detention. > Also, what in the fuck would CBP be doing in Chicago? CBP, and more specifically Border Patrol, the main enforcement agency within CBP, is everywhere the Administration’s immhration crackdown is beig executed, and much of the most violent “immigration enforcement” attributed to “ICE” is actually Border Patrol, not ICE.

solid_fuel 1y ago

> This entire encounter is fake. No, this entire encounter is illegal. It is a crime, being committed by the republican administration running the federal government and endorsed by every republican in congress who has declined to reign in the illegal behavior of the trump administration. It is, however, very real. If you reside in American, then this is the reality you live in, imposed upon you by republican voters. You don't get to just plug your ears and cover your eyes.

tomhow 1y ago

Please don't fulminate on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html