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Except law is not a battle field, otherwise lawyers would decide the victors, or guns the outcomes of trials. Law is supposed to strive for justice, war is as

Except law is not a battle field, otherwise lawyers would decide the victors, or guns the outcomes of trials. Law is supposed to strive for justice, war is as lawless as it can get away with.

kragen 1y ago
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- peterfirefly 1y ago
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  - nobody9999 1y ago
    > But they are trying very hard to not throw all brown people with an accent into detention centers Are you sure about that? There's quite a bit of evidence to the contrary, starting with the really high false-positive[0][1[[2][3][4][5] rates of facial recognition, especially among people of color. In fact, as the studies linked below show, people of color are misidentified (i.e., false positive) more than 1/3 of the time. That's not nearly accurate enough to round folks up if 10 of every 30 arrested, detained and potentially deported actually aren't the folks you're looking for. What could possibly go wrong? [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/police-facial-recognition-technology-cant-tell-black-people-apart/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/police-facial-rec... [1] https://www.aclu-mn.org/en/news/biased-technology-automated-discrimination-facial-recognition https://www.aclu-mn.org/en/news/biased-technology-automated-... [2] https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facial-recognition-race-1.5403899 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facial-recognition-race-1.54... [3] https://jusmedia.co.uk/riotandreason/2025/06/02/face-the-bias-how-facial-recognition-fails-people-of-colour/ https://jusmedia.co.uk/riotandreason/2025/06/02/face-the-bia... [4] https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2019/12/nist-study-evaluates-effects-race-age-sex-face-recognition-software https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2019/12/nist-study-eva... [5] https://civilrights.org/edfund/2024/09/25/advocates-ring-alarm-on-civil-rights-abuses-of-facial-recognition-technology-in-policing/# https://civilrights.org/edfund/2024/09/25/advocates-ring-ala...
  - kragen 1y ago
    Joe and Erich loved brown people. But, yes, targeting is a huge amplifier of the coercive force of violence.
throwaway48476 1y ago
In this case, ICE officer's are being shot at.
- deleted 1y ago
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Except law is not a battle field, otherwise lawyers would decide the victors, or guns the outcomes of trials. Law is supposed to strive for justice, war is as lawless as it can get away with.

kragen 1y ago

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peterfirefly 1y ago
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- nobody9999 1y ago
  > But they are trying very hard to not throw all brown people with an accent into detention centers Are you sure about that? There's quite a bit of evidence to the contrary, starting with the really high false-positive[0][1[[2][3][4][5] rates of facial recognition, especially among people of color. In fact, as the studies linked below show, people of color are misidentified (i.e., false positive) more than 1/3 of the time. That's not nearly accurate enough to round folks up if 10 of every 30 arrested, detained and potentially deported actually aren't the folks you're looking for. What could possibly go wrong? [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/police-facial-recognition-technology-cant-tell-black-people-apart/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/police-facial-rec... [1] https://www.aclu-mn.org/en/news/biased-technology-automated-discrimination-facial-recognition https://www.aclu-mn.org/en/news/biased-technology-automated-... [2] https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facial-recognition-race-1.5403899 https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/facial-recognition-race-1.54... [3] https://jusmedia.co.uk/riotandreason/2025/06/02/face-the-bias-how-facial-recognition-fails-people-of-colour/ https://jusmedia.co.uk/riotandreason/2025/06/02/face-the-bia... [4] https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2019/12/nist-study-evaluates-effects-race-age-sex-face-recognition-software https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2019/12/nist-study-eva... [5] https://civilrights.org/edfund/2024/09/25/advocates-ring-alarm-on-civil-rights-abuses-of-facial-recognition-technology-in-policing/# https://civilrights.org/edfund/2024/09/25/advocates-ring-ala...
- kragen 1y ago
  Joe and Erich loved brown people. But, yes, targeting is a huge amplifier of the coercive force of violence.

throwaway48476 1y ago

In this case, ICE officer's are being shot at.

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