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I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corpora

I wonder why people downvote. Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. State responsibilities are being offloaded to multinational corporations, de facto private policing is around the corner, surveillance (digital ID tracking your movements and what you talk about, chat controls and whatnot). It's creeping in and people pretend it's not happening.

snozolli 1y ago
Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. Which ones? This isn't an "I'm just asking" attack, I genuinely want to know which ones you think are obviously fascist.
- varispeed 1y ago
  US, UK, most of the EU.
Cornbilly 1y ago
People downvote because an oligarchy controlled by big tech is their idea of a wet dream. Half of the user base of HN is “founders” excited at the idea that morals, values, and laws will no longer matter.
- gdulli 1y ago
  Temporarily embarrassed founders.
dgllghr 1y ago
I’ve gone from thinking people are oblivious to thinking that people are willing to sacrifice a lot (democracy, individual liberties, food safety, etc.) out of fear, selfishness, and greed. It is surprising with the HN crowd though given how much less innovation and entrepreneurship there is under fascism.
giraffe_lady 1y ago
I mean they are flashbanging houses, teargassing residential neighborhoods, dragging parents away from their screaming children outside of elementary schools, shooting people, all in chicago right now. The things you mention were serious problems we needed to address 5, 10, 20 years ago. We did not and now we have a very different problem to solve. We will still have to address those things but we have to deal with this first.
BobaFloutist 1y ago
Because "The rest aren't doing enough to push it back out" is the same old, tired victim blaming that comes up every time anyone points out that one American political party seems to have different policies and priorities than the other.

snozolli 1y ago

Many western countries now couldn't be more obviously fascist. Which ones? This isn't an "I'm just asking" attack, I genuinely want to know which ones you think are obviously fascist.

varispeed 1y ago
US, UK, most of the EU.

Cornbilly 1y ago

People downvote because an oligarchy controlled by big tech is their idea of a wet dream. Half of the user base of HN is “founders” excited at the idea that morals, values, and laws will no longer matter.

gdulli 1y ago
Temporarily embarrassed founders.

dgllghr 1y ago

I’ve gone from thinking people are oblivious to thinking that people are willing to sacrifice a lot (democracy, individual liberties, food safety, etc.) out of fear, selfishness, and greed. It is surprising with the HN crowd though given how much less innovation and entrepreneurship there is under fascism.

giraffe_lady 1y ago

I mean they are flashbanging houses, teargassing residential neighborhoods, dragging parents away from their screaming children outside of elementary schools, shooting people, all in chicago right now. The things you mention were serious problems we needed to address 5, 10, 20 years ago. We did not and now we have a very different problem to solve. We will still have to address those things but we have to deal with this first.

BobaFloutist 1y ago

Because "The rest aren't doing enough to push it back out" is the same old, tired victim blaming that comes up every time anyone points out that one American political party seems to have different policies and priorities than the other.