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Oh, well, I'm sure Azure will be given the same pass that AWS got here recently when they had their 12-hour outage...

by ZeroConcerns 11mo ago

taeric 11mo ago
I didn't realize AWS got a pass?
- graemep 11mo ago
  Have repeated outages lost them customers? has it lost them any money in any way? That is a pass.
  - taeric 11mo ago
    Apologies, but this just reads like a low effort critique of big things. To be clear, they should get criticism. They should be held liable for any damage they cause. But that they remain the biggest cloud offering out there isn't something you'd expect to change from a few outages that, by most all evidence, potential replacements have, as well? More, a lot of the outages potential replacements have are often more global in nature.
    - graemep 11mo ago
      I would say you are explaining why they get a free pass so they still get one - they are bad but their main competitors are even worse! I thought one of the major selling points of the big cloud providers was that they were more reliable than running your own stuff (by which i mean anything from a VPS to multiple data centres depending on your scale. Compared to those alternatives they seem to be less reliable in practice! The solution is to have a multi-region, or even multi-cloud setup, but then bang goes the "they do all the work for you" argument (which i doubt anyway).
      - taeric 11mo ago
        That isn't a free pass. You have no data showing how many people did go to competitors over this. You are asserting it is zero, but why do you think that? Going on the talks here, you can find plenty of folks that opted not to go with or stay on them. You are further asserting that these outages prove they are not still more reliable than home spun. Is that the case? More than a few people aren't ready for a single hard drive to crash on the stuff they are doing.
  - prmoustache 11mo ago
    Well, they have successfully locked their customers captive thanks to huge egress fees.
  - philipallstar 11mo ago
    Have people left GitHub due to the multiple post-acquisition outages? That is a pass if you don't judge it the same way.
  - arccy 11mo ago
    customers like us are certainly looking at expanding from just multi region into instead being multi cloud...

Oh, well, I'm sure Azure will be given the same pass that AWS got here recently when they had their 12-hour outage...

taeric 11mo ago

I didn't realize AWS got a pass?

graemep 11mo ago
Have repeated outages lost them customers? has it lost them any money in any way? That is a pass.
- taeric 11mo ago
  Apologies, but this just reads like a low effort critique of big things. To be clear, they should get criticism. They should be held liable for any damage they cause. But that they remain the biggest cloud offering out there isn't something you'd expect to change from a few outages that, by most all evidence, potential replacements have, as well? More, a lot of the outages potential replacements have are often more global in nature.
  - graemep 11mo ago
    I would say you are explaining why they get a free pass so they still get one - they are bad but their main competitors are even worse! I thought one of the major selling points of the big cloud providers was that they were more reliable than running your own stuff (by which i mean anything from a VPS to multiple data centres depending on your scale. Compared to those alternatives they seem to be less reliable in practice! The solution is to have a multi-region, or even multi-cloud setup, but then bang goes the "they do all the work for you" argument (which i doubt anyway).
    - taeric 11mo ago
      That isn't a free pass. You have no data showing how many people did go to competitors over this. You are asserting it is zero, but why do you think that? Going on the talks here, you can find plenty of folks that opted not to go with or stay on them. You are further asserting that these outages prove they are not still more reliable than home spun. Is that the case? More than a few people aren't ready for a single hard drive to crash on the stuff they are doing.
- prmoustache 11mo ago
  Well, they have successfully locked their customers captive thanks to huge egress fees.
- philipallstar 11mo ago
  Have people left GitHub due to the multiple post-acquisition outages? That is a pass if you don't judge it the same way.
- arccy 11mo ago
  customers like us are certainly looking at expanding from just multi region into instead being multi cloud...