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Do we shift over everything to le Dark Web and let the corpos use this one for selling their shit to consumers? These toys don’t want to play nice and there’s n
by uvaursi 1y ago
Do we shift over everything to le Dark Web and let the corpos use this one for selling their shit to consumers? These toys don’t want to play nice and there’s no real way to stop them without bringing in things like Real ID and other verifications that infringe on anonymity.
- Chabsff 1y agoThe bots flock to where the data is. Moving to a different network is just begging for the bots to tag along.
- uvaursi 1y agoWe can set different rules on these networks however. We can choose to be choosy at the gate.
- Cthulhu_ 1y agoHow though? Bots evade bot detection mechanisms, as described in other threads. Unless you introduce something like ID verification or pay-per-request making bot traffic too expensive for the bots. But these techniques have been posited for older generations of bot traffic too.
- embedding-shape 1y agoMake it P2P and content-based, instead of location-based like the current web. Content could be served from anywhere, so DDoS stops being an effective method, and shared peer quality could propagate across the network to ban bad actors quickly. I spend about 30 seconds thinking about this, so this is clearly the perfect solution with zero drawbacks or tradeoffs.
- Chabsff 1y agoI know this is tongue in cheek, but I'll give it a serious reply in case someone finds themselves "inspired". A CDN. What you are describing is a CDN. We have CDNs today and the problem still exists because most of today's websites refuse to operate within the constraints. There is no need for new infrastructure to deploy this solution, we just need website operators to "give up" and operate in a more static way.
- embedding-shape 1y agoNope, today's CDNs are all location-based, not content-based. The user-agents are requesting content based on the address (the URI), not based on the content-hash of the content. The CDNs might work content-based internally, but the user-facing web CDNs definitely are URL based, not content-hash based.
- Chabsff 1y agoYou might have a point if this was a user problem, but it's not. It's a site operator problem. And from their POV, a CDN provides the exact same functionality.
- embedding-shape 1y agoCDNs are hack, not a solution. Content-addressing would be a solution, not a hack. From the PoV of operators or users doesn't matter, DDoS wouldn't be viable with content-addressing.
- happysadpanda2 1y agoan evolution of the gpg web of trust could possibly be part of it